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General_Flyer Oct 26, 2009 7:49 pm

Donuts through security?
 
Just wanting to ask this question before I actually do it later on next month..

Are donuts usually allowed inside the secured zone? Especially the ones with jelly inside it?

I'm thinking of bringing two dozen donuts to some friends from Portland.. The famous Voodoo Donuts.. And it crossed my mind that some of the donuts have jellies in it. TSA is very strict about 'liquids' what would they say about my jelly donuts?

I'm asking these questions because I want to be sure.. So when I bring those donuts in, I won't have to hand it over to the TSA people so they can eat it instead of my friends.. Better be safe than sorry.. :D

Global_Hi_Flyer Oct 26, 2009 8:02 pm

Donuts? TSA?

snicker.

Boggie Dog Oct 26, 2009 8:46 pm

Bait for the BDO game?

GregL Oct 26, 2009 8:55 pm

Maybe throw one away from the direction of the checkpoint and pass-through as all the TSOs run for it?

Sorry.. couldn't resist...

Greg

DeaconFlyer Oct 26, 2009 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by GregL (Post 12714698)
Maybe throw one away from the direction of the checkpoint and pass-through as all the TSOs run for it?

Sorry.. couldn't resist...

Greg

I think that only works on real LEOs

NoClu Oct 26, 2009 9:25 pm

Faux doughnuts for Faux officers?

janehoya Oct 26, 2009 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 12714334)
Just wanting to ask this question before I actually do it later on next month..

Are donuts usually allowed inside the secured zone? Especially the ones with jelly inside it?

I'm thinking of bringing two dozen donuts to some friends from Portland.. The famous Voodoo Donuts.. And it crossed my mind that some of the donuts have jellies in it. TSA is very strict about 'liquids' what would they say about my jelly donuts?

I'm asking these questions because I want to be sure.. So when I bring those donuts in, I won't have to hand it over to the TSA people so they can eat it instead of my friends.. Better be safe than sorry.. :D

We had a full and factory-sealed jar of almond butter confiscated on a trip in 2008, so while I don't know for sure how your donuts will be treated, there is certainly some doubt that they will be allowed on.

General_Flyer Oct 26, 2009 9:53 pm

Well, this is the real deal... I dunno how they'll treat it so it is wise IMO to seek FT for the help :)

I won't want to give them (TSA) even a toothpaste, let alone two dozen donuts...

KCK Oct 26, 2009 10:09 pm

Only a few of their doughnuts are filled. Even if you get a "Voodoo Dozen" (their choice of 13), I'm sure you could ask that they not include any filled ones. Of course you can't go wrong with their Maple Bacon Bars:):):).
http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php

General_Flyer Oct 26, 2009 11:59 pm


Originally Posted by KCK (Post 12715053)
Only a few of their doughnuts are filled. Even if you get a "Voodoo Dozen" (their choice of 13), I'm sure you could ask that they not include any filled ones. Of course you can't go wrong with their Maple Bacon Bars:):):).
http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php

Well, that depends on what is the outcome from this discussion.. I can think of not having some jelly donuts.. Still, its going to be somewhat different.. Especially without the signature voodoo doll donuts and yeah.. Bacon Maple Bars! :p

janehoya Oct 27, 2009 5:15 am


Originally Posted by KCK (Post 12715053)
Only a few of their doughnuts are filled. Even if you get a "Voodoo Dozen" (their choice of 13), I'm sure you could ask that they not include any filled ones. Of course you can't go wrong with their Maple Bacon Bars:):):).
http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php

If the TSA decides to make an issue of it, how will the OP prove that none of the donuts have jelly in them? Are we assuming that the scanner will determine which do and which don't?

RadioGirl Oct 27, 2009 5:33 am


Originally Posted by janehoya (Post 12716286)
If the TSA decides to make an issue of it, how will the OP prove that none of the donuts have jelly in them? Are we assuming that the scanner will determine which do and which don't?

Some donuts do, some don't. Each donut is different.

janehoya Oct 27, 2009 8:06 am


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12716328)

Exactly. So, if the TSA decides to make an issue and only let the OP travel with the non-jelly donuts, how will they determine which those are? Just wondering.

As an aside, I got put in secondary due to a box of brownie mix in my luggage when traveling through JFK earlier this month. Maybe the TSA is just trying to help us eat healthy, although they did let me keep the box of mix.

FXWizard Oct 27, 2009 12:38 pm

What about putting the jelly donuts in a Kippie bag?

Are any of them covered in powdered sugar? That might be a problem, too...

mikeef Oct 27, 2009 12:45 pm

Those look good. Are they worth the trip to Portland?

Mike

General_Flyer Oct 27, 2009 1:37 pm

So in the end, the safest course of action is grab the non-jellied donuts.. But that might not be the best course of action because policies in each airport is different and I might not be able to bring it onboard due to 'other' problems with the donuts... Verdict?

And yes mikeef, they are worth the trip to Portland.. In a sense, it is a small san francisco as a melting pot city

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 12719237)
So in the end, the safest course of action is grab the non-jellied donuts.. But that might not be the best course of action because policies in each airport is different and I might not be able to bring it onboard due to 'other' problems with the donuts... Verdict?

And yes mikeef, they are worth the trip to Portland.. In a sense, it is a small san francisco as a melting pot city

What other problems with the donuts?

And people at the airports I have worked have never had a problem with jelly-filled do nuts, but I do understand your concern.

IslandBased Oct 27, 2009 3:44 pm

At least take a bite out of each of them before you go through the checkpoint.

helpless Oct 27, 2009 4:16 pm

I've never taken donuts through security, but I have taken cakes (with frosting). Frosting is about as liquid as toothpaste, and no one gave me any problems. One time, the flight attendants and pilot did offer to take the cake off my hands though.

ND Sol Oct 27, 2009 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 12719237)
And yes mikeef, they are worth the trip to Portland.. In a sense, it is a small san francisco as a melting pot city

I wouldn't consider a city with over 75% non-Hispanic white to be much of a melting pot, especially where no other group accounts for even 7% of the population. Well, perhaps if you are comparing it to Vermont.

General_Flyer Oct 27, 2009 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12719688)
What other problems with the donuts?

And people at the airports I have worked have never had a problem with jelly-filled do nuts, but I do understand your concern.

Other problems include: sugar dusting as one poster suggests, secondary screening perhaps, or maybe just having to hand it over and not taking it with me..


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 12720081)
At least take a bite out of each of them before you go through the checkpoint.

:p


Originally Posted by helpless (Post 12720273)
I've never taken donuts through security, but I have taken cakes (with frosting). Frosting is about as liquid as toothpaste, and no one gave me any problems. One time, the flight attendants and pilot did offer to take the cake off my hands though.

Thanks for the info.. Did you hand the cake to them? :D


Originally Posted by ND Sol (Post 12720334)
I wouldn't consider a city with over 75% non-Hispanic white to be much of a melting pot, especially where no other group accounts for even 7% of the population. Well, perhaps if you are comparing it to Vermont.

In a sense, it is.. Certainly food wise, its pretty diverse IMO.. :)

Maybe the best thing to do is just to ask the TSOs when I have the chance.. Or if there are any FTers flying out of PDX in the near future, may I ask a small favor and ask them?

RadioGirl Oct 27, 2009 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 12720081)
At least take a bite out of each of them before you go through the checkpoint.

Or, if they are confiscated voluntarily surrendered :rolleyes:, make sure you take a bit out of each of them before you hand them over.

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by General_Flyer (Post 12721176)
Other problems include: sugar dusting as one poster suggests, secondary screening perhaps, or maybe just having to hand it over and not taking it with me..



:p



Thanks for the info.. Did you hand the cake to them? :D



In a sense, it is.. Certainly food wise, its pretty diverse IMO.. :)

Maybe the best thing to do is just to ask the TSOs when I have the chance.. Or if there are any FTers flying out of PDX in the near future, may I ask a small favor and ask them?

Actually the sugar thing is kind of funny, but I understand the confusion. Powder has go be over a certain amount, and has to be a certain color on the x-Ray for it to be tested. The powder won't be a problem ;)

jkhuggins Oct 27, 2009 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12721283)
Actually the sugar thing is kind of funny, but I understand the confusion. Powder has go be over a certain amount, and has to be a certain color on the x-Ray for it to be tested. The powder won't be a problem ;)

and the donuts themselves?

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 12721527)
and the donuts themselves?

Shouldn't be a problem at all. I've seen lots of people bring donuts through the checkpoint no problems. Even the dreaded jelly/cream filled donuts. Just remember, TSOs can be bought and bought cheaply!

BTW, for those of you who think taking a bite would actually stop a TSO from eating a donut that wasn't allowed through, think again! I mean, have you seen the average shape of a TSO??? No donut would be spared...

evan12 Oct 27, 2009 8:36 pm

I prefer bringing the unfilled ones than seeing my jelly donuts in the hands of a TSA...

RadioGirl Oct 27, 2009 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12721724)
BTW, for those of you who think taking a bite would actually stop a TSO from eating a donut that wasn't allowed through, think again! I mean, have you seen the average shape of a TSO??? No donut would be spared...

Ah ha! You've fallen into my cunning trap and admit that there might be donuts that aren't allowed through. :D:D

Mongah Oct 27, 2009 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 12718868)
Those look good. Are they worth the trip to Portland?

Mike

Yep. Make an MR run there, kill 2 birds and gain 10 lbs. :p

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12721750)
Ah ha! You've fallen into my cunning trap and admit that there might be donuts that aren't allowed through. :D:D

Lol I think every donut will make it through.

jkhuggins Oct 27, 2009 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12721750)
Ah ha! You've fallen into my cunning trap and admit that there might be donuts that aren't allowed through. :D:D


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12721802)
Lol I think every donut will make it through.

See, this is what makes navigating TSA so frakking frustrating. TSA can't come out and say "this is permitted", full stop, no apologies, no prevaricating, no "well, most of the time ...", no "I think it'll be ok", and so on. By policy, passengers are always subject to the whim of the particular TSOs on duty.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm actually offering serious commentary. Let's get back to the donut jokes. :D

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 12721830)
See, this is what makes navigating TSA so frakking frustrating. TSA can't come out and say "this is permitted", full stop, no apologies, no prevaricating, no "well, most of the time ...", no "I think it'll be ok", and so on. By policy, passengers are always subject to the whim of the particular TSOs on duty.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm actually offering serious commentary. Let's get back to the donut jokes. :D

I do understand your frustrations. There is no policy that deals with donuts, but there is a policy that deals with LGAs. I'll explain it like this, if it's a liquid, gel, spray, cream, paste, lotion, it has to meet certain size restrictions (not talking or dealing with medicines here). So you decide; based on just that, is you were the TSO, what would you do when you encounter the dreaded jelly filled donuts? In this situation that is the official policy concerning these kinds of foods.

I have never seen donuts not allowed, actually never seen them questioned.

Mats Oct 27, 2009 10:08 pm

Well, pie is forbidden.

The TSA was confiscating pies and feeding them to troops (I'm not making this up.) The pies were so hazardous that they needed to be fed to those serving our country.

A filled doughnut might be okay, but a filled pie is obviously too dangerous to be brought into a secured area of the airport.

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by Mats (Post 12722239)
Well, pie is forbidden.

The TSA was confiscating pies and feeding them to troops (I'm not making this up.) The pies were so hazardous that they needed to be fed to those serving our country.

A filled doughnut might be okay, but a filled pie is obviously too dangerous to be brought into a secured area of the airport.

I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

chatmax Oct 27, 2009 10:54 pm

I take cakes with frosting everytime i do my quarterly run to YVR. My aunts love me for bringing them back. I use to bring in Krispy Kremes in Delta/Surrey but it's just too far out of the way. When i did go thru security with the Krispies, security would joke that they might to confiscate them. All in good humour.

General_Flyer Oct 27, 2009 11:49 pm

To attempt or not to attempt... That is the question..

But one might as well just do it.. Of course, this will be a lesson either easily learned, or hardily learned..

edmali Oct 28, 2009 1:58 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722260)
I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

It happens every Thanksgiving.

This past Thanksgiving, a local TV reporter was at CLE talking about pies not being let through.

However, she mentioned that the pies were going to a good home - the local USO.

IIRC, Bob had an article on pies on PV.

Ed

whirledtraveler Oct 28, 2009 3:44 am


Originally Posted by janehoya (Post 12716931)
Exactly. So, if the TSA decides to make an issue and only let the OP travel with the non-jelly donuts, how will they determine which those are? Just wondering.

I tell you, though, if someone goes through security with a dozen doughnuts and the TSA actually separates and confiscates the jellied ones. It would be the news story of the century - a perfect way of highlighting the madness. It would be ever better if someone did it close to the 10th anniversary of 9/11. :D

ND Sol Oct 28, 2009 5:19 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722260)
I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

Pie: A Danger to Free People Everywhere

Blogger Bob Says Pies are OK

jkhuggins Oct 28, 2009 5:35 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722072)
There is no policy that deals with donuts, but there is a policy that deals with LGAs. I'll explain it like this, if it's a liquid, gel, spray, cream, paste, lotion, it has to meet certain size restrictions (not talking or dealing with medicines here). So you decide; based on just that, is you were the TSO, what would you do when you encounter the dreaded jelly filled donuts? In this situation that is the official policy concerning these kinds of foods.

Then how do you reconcile this policy with the other policy that says that pies are allowed through the checkpoint? After all, pumpkin pie is mostly a gel.

See, the LGA Policy says that pumpkin pies aren't allowed. The Pie Policy says that pies are allowed of any sort. Which one are you going to enforce when I come through the line?

tcl Oct 28, 2009 5:46 am

I guess I shouldn't even think of bringing chocolate lava cakes home then :( Was thinking of pre-baking them in my kitchen.

Come to think of it, I haven't brought a single baked good home since this whole security theatre started. I just stopped bothering after the guy in the Camo holding the gun told LGA TSA to take my earrings. (1" long gold dangly matchsticks that were fashionable a few years back). LGA TSA were surprised but Camo-guy told them to again, so they let me mail it to a friend. Upon going back through security Camo-guy was pissed off at them and ordered a secondary twice, because LGA TSA were "too apologetic" and "only went through the motions" the first time. LGA TSA were very nice but Camo-guy was an a**. :td:

Can you mail the donuts instead? Or lace the donuts with habenero? :D


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