Info Requested With Secure Flight - screenshot
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Info Requested With Secure Flight - screenshot
For those of you who have not been introduced to SecureFlight, I thought I'd share this screenshot with you.
This is how it works on Delta.com when purchasing a ticket.
1) Select Flights
2) Provide Passenger Name and Payment Info
3) Select Purchase
After you purchase, you will get your purchase confirmation and the screen will read:
Your purchase is complete. Thank you for choosing Delta.
Flight Confirmation Number: PNR123
What's Next
Now that you've finished booking your trip:
In order to comply with the Transportation Security Administration's Secure Flight Program,
Delta is now collecting additional data for all passengers.
Provide your Secure Flight Passenger Data now.Once you click on the "Provide your Secure Flight Passenger Data Now", a JS window appears on top of the existing screen for data collection:

Note: If your ID only has a middle initial, the Secure Flight screen does not accept the middle initial, only full names. For example, my drivers license only uses my middle initial, while my passport includes my full middle name.
If you're unlucky enough to have the same name, date of birth, and be of the same gender of a "bad guy/gal" -- they even provide space for a "Redress Number":
Just thought I'd share this for those who haven't booked on a carrier that has requested you surrender this info to Big Brother.
This is how it works on Delta.com when purchasing a ticket.
1) Select Flights
2) Provide Passenger Name and Payment Info
3) Select Purchase
After you purchase, you will get your purchase confirmation and the screen will read:
Your purchase is complete. Thank you for choosing Delta.
Flight Confirmation Number: PNR123
What's Next
Now that you've finished booking your trip:
In order to comply with the Transportation Security Administration's Secure Flight Program,
Delta is now collecting additional data for all passengers.
Provide your Secure Flight Passenger Data now.

Note: If your ID only has a middle initial, the Secure Flight screen does not accept the middle initial, only full names. For example, my drivers license only uses my middle initial, while my passport includes my full middle name.
If you're unlucky enough to have the same name, date of birth, and be of the same gender of a "bad guy/gal" -- they even provide space for a "Redress Number":
Just thought I'd share this for those who haven't booked on a carrier that has requested you surrender this info to Big Brother.
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Delta's not displaying a field for "known traveller", or does DL not have one of the sort the TSA wanted earlier on and may want again down the road?
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This form does not seem to take into account that many people (myself included) have more than one middle name, as printed out on their government-issued ID.
On another point, as far as I understand the system, this is a nice way for people who know they are on watch lists to escape further scrutiny. They should register with their full name as on the ID they plan to present, but a fake date of birth (so they don't match the hit list). Since the date of birth is not on the boarding pass, it does not matter, and ensures an event-free trip.
On another point, as far as I understand the system, this is a nice way for people who know they are on watch lists to escape further scrutiny. They should register with their full name as on the ID they plan to present, but a fake date of birth (so they don't match the hit list). Since the date of birth is not on the boarding pass, it does not matter, and ensures an event-free trip.
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On the bright side, at least Delta isn't charging a fee yet to "transmit" your data to the TSA! (er, better not give them any ideas...)
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This form does not seem to take into account that many people (myself included) have more than one middle name, as printed out on their government-issued ID.
On another point, as far as I understand the system, this is a nice way for people who know they are on watch lists to escape further scrutiny. They should register with their full name as on the ID they plan to present, but a fake date of birth (so they don't match the hit list). Since the date of birth is not on the boarding pass, it does not matter, and ensures an event-free trip.
On another point, as far as I understand the system, this is a nice way for people who know they are on watch lists to escape further scrutiny. They should register with their full name as on the ID they plan to present, but a fake date of birth (so they don't match the hit list). Since the date of birth is not on the boarding pass, it does not matter, and ensures an event-free trip.
It seems there are a number of shortcomings such as the name fields, but I suspect that was all TSA designed & thus "Americanized" without much thought given for other cultures, let alone someone who might be a JR, SR, or the III'd.
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I notice that. While I don't have two middle names or two last names, how is the system supposed to apply to those from Latin America where it is common to have two last names?
It seems there are a number of shortcomings such as the name fields, but I suspect that was all TSA designed & thus "Americanized" without much thought given for other cultures, let alone someone who might be a JR, SR, or the III'd.
It seems there are a number of shortcomings such as the name fields, but I suspect that was all TSA designed & thus "Americanized" without much thought given for other cultures, let alone someone who might be a JR, SR, or the III'd.
And cultures that only assign a single name to an individual.
Somebody sure screwed the pooch on the requirements definition for this project.
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As noted on page 1 (page 4 of the pdf) you get a first, middle, and last name data field, 35 characters each. Only dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ) allowed as numeric characters. "Do not include suffixes (e.g., jr.). Truncate names longer than 35 characters."
The US centric view of the TSA drones is sickening. They assume everyone in the world has a nice US Anglo type name: "John Allen Whitfield." First Middle Last, no punctuation except a (') like "O"Donnell", and better add a (-) for the hyphenated modern marriage names "Whitfield-Jones". But that's it. None of them funny furreign names wanted or allowed.
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