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Old Aug 3, 2011, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I always wondered if you could by a refundable ticket to gain access to the gatehouse and then cancel the ticket. Surely....it can't be that easy.
Maybe this is in some sort of FAQ, but why does DL call the gate a "gatehouse?"

I used to be a Continental and AA guy before I started flying DL extensively. The first time I heard a DL GA say "gatehouse," I thought it was anomoly. But, it's clearly not.

It's not really a house (heck, the desk where the computers are located is barely a structure). Why is it a gatehouse?
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by javabean
Thanks everyone! I'll call aeroflot, I guess it would be better to call tomorrow and not today?? The flight arrives after 5pm

As for giving the child some note written in English, I have no idea what it should say or how it will help.
Sorry, I thought it was today and she was on the plane already, hence the urgency. Call Aeroflot today, not tomorrow (and if they are closed in the U.S. already, call the Moscow number). You can request special assistance, and it will be put in the record, including the wheelchair if you decide to go that route.

I am sure you are aware of the regulations on the Russian side, so just to mention -- if the kid is a Russian citizen and is traveling alone, both SU and passport control will require notarized parental consent for her to leave the country.

They used to have UM services, at least last year; and if nothing else, the lead FA from the flight would escort her him/herself to the Immigration. She might need an interpreter at that point.

But the best solution of all is to hook her up with someone who speaks Russian on the departure. I assume her parents or relatives will be seeing her off and can work it out at the airport.

Good luck, hope everything goes smoothly!
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by JFKSFOLAX_friend
Maybe this is in some sort of FAQ, but why does DL call the gate a "gatehouse?"

I used to be a Continental and AA guy before I started flying DL extensively. The first time I heard a DL GA say "gatehouse," I thought it was anomoly. But, it's clearly not.

It's not really a house (heck, the desk where the computers are located is barely a structure). Why is it a gatehouse?
The answer may be divined by first figuring out where the "gate" is. I haven't seen one between any waiting room and aircraft for many, many years. Try starting a new thread and answers will run a very interesting gamut.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by glbetrotter
Call Aeroflot today, not tomorrow (and if they are closed in the U.S. already, call the Moscow number).
Being that Moscow is 8 hours ahead of EDT, chances are if the US office is closed, the Moscow office is definitely closed (i.e. middle of the night in Moscow already!).
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by fti
Being that Moscow is 8 hours ahead of EDT, chances are if the US office is closed, the Moscow office is definitely closed (i.e. middle of the night in Moscow already!).
The Moscow number answers 24 hours a day (and it is 2am in Moscow-I have both NY and Moscow times on my watch!).

Even if you call the Moscow office I would still push the DC office tomorrow. Politely but very firmly.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by fti
Being that Moscow is 8 hours ahead of EDT, chances are if the US office is closed, the Moscow office is definitely closed (i.e. middle of the night in Moscow already!).
The Moscow office is open 24 hrs a day. Calling at night is nearly always a best bet.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by MaecDavidMiller
thread should be moved...about Aeroflot, not Delta.
Originally Posted by javabean
The flight is tomorrow; expected to be able to purchase UM, but Aeroflot said no, trying to figure what to do now. SU flight not DL
OP as others suggest you should deal w Aeroflot directly. Is the child connecting to a DL flight? If so then maybe they will help you, though it sounds like the child terminates at IAD. If not it doesn't make sense why they would get involved with an unaccompanied minor traveling on a different airline.

Per your profile you're a United elite, maybe you would have some leverage with them to find a solution due to your status if Aeroflot doesn't cooperate? Good luck!
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by javabean
UM works fine, I'm not asking about UM service, the problem is they WONT provide it, the moscow office, i did not call them myself, but they said something like applied to late (right after purchasing a ticket), can't process paperwork in time, too many UMs on the flight already, all of the above, SU is fond of stupid communist-style bureaucracy it seems.

Maybe they will be able to purchase UM service at check-in though, but they were told no when trying to pre-arrange that
Javabean, you specifically asked what to do on the States-side part of the trip. Regardless of what you have booked with SU or what not, the moment the minor arrives here, he/she is an UM (unacc. minor) by definition. There might be no proper paperwork, such as the UM envelope with all the trip details and such, but no one would ignore the child if you requested services State-side. At least on U.S. soil (e. g. from the airplane to immigration, to baggage (re-)claim, to an exit or any publicly accessable area (where oyu can meet), DL or airport personnell can and will help.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by javabean
13 y.o. but doesn't speak English. It's an international flight, from SVO. For some strange reason Aeroflot would not provide UM services.

Can I get a getepass, get to the gate to wait for her? Again, this is an international flight customs, border crossing and all. What should I do?
There's a simple solution here -- you need to let Delta know you're meeting someone who doesn't speak English and they speak xyz language and will need a translator to help them getting off the plane and through customs and imigration.

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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by BobH
There's a simple solution here -- you need to let Delta know you're meeting someone who doesn't speak English and they speak xyz language and will need a translator to help them getting off the plane and through customs and imigration.

Bob H
Seeing how many people wish to help is wonderful. But, Bob H, let's not confuse the OP. Delta is not in a position to help with a minor on a future SU flight. They will not interfere with another airline operations ahead of time. They might be able to help on the day of the flight, if things are happening "here and now," but as of this moment, everything is in the hands of SU and the adults who will be putting the girl on the plane in Moscow. It is much more likely that even if the formal UM service is not arranged upfront, it will be done at the airport at the check in. The alternative is not so bright: as an unaccompanied minor without any paperwork she will not be allowed to fly tomorrow. Been there, seen it happen, and ended up playing the role of an "accompanying adult" to a child I did not know. Not a big deal, and again, this is in the hands of the adults in Moscow, not Delta in Washington.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 4:45 pm
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Truly don't mean to sound insensitive but why are folks here suggesting contacting DL for assistance? This is an SU flt and near as anyone can tell from the OP, it has nothing whatsoever to do with DL.

Perhaps it would be more effective for the OP to ask about this on the SU board (if there is one). If there is a forum for SU, maybe it is monitored or someone with experience at that airline could help.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 5:05 pm
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Thanks everyone! I'll try to work with SU in DC/IAD if SU doesn't provide UM service when she departs SVO.

(there is no SU forum, that's why I posted here)
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by glbetrotter
Sorry, I thought it was today and she was on the plane already, hence the urgency. Call Aeroflot today, not tomorrow (and if they are closed in the U.S. already, call the Moscow number). You can request special assistance, and it will be put in the record, including the wheelchair if you decide to go that route.

I am sure you are aware of the regulations on the Russian side, so just to mention -- if the kid is a Russian citizen and is traveling alone, both SU and passport control will require notarized parental consent for her to leave the country.

They used to have UM services, at least last year; and if nothing else, the lead FA from the flight would escort her him/herself to the Immigration. She might need an interpreter at that point.

But the best solution of all is to hook her up with someone who speaks Russian on the departure. I assume her parents or relatives will be seeing her off and can work it out at the airport.

Good luck, hope everything goes smoothly!
Thanks! Yes they know about notarized parental consent
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by javabean
Thanks everyone! I'll try to work with SU in DC/IAD if SU doesn't provide UM service when she departs SVO.

(there is no SU forum, that's why I posted here)
Good luck, and I am sure everything will turn out fine. SU has become much, much better, both their metal and their service. Just flew t-atl with them a few months ago and was very impressed. She will be in good hands.
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Old Aug 3, 2011, 6:40 pm
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Well some might suggest purchasing a fully refundable ticket to get a BP to get past the Smurfs to meet the incoming flight. Then request a refund after the fact.

Of course I'm not advocating that... but some might.
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