Quality of Air china Business class
Apr 12, 2017, 10:18 am
#31
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germany
Programs: *G, OWS
Posts: 214
When will you depart?
I'll be doing a short trip report (including the NZ flight AKL to NAN and the Pacific Island Air flight to the Resort), probably after I get back on the 7th.
I just hope there will be no change to the planes - 747-800 and 787-900 should all offer lie flats and (hopefully) the most up-to-date hard product.
Can anyone provide information on the check-in times? If check-in opens up only two hours in advance I might be stuck landside for a bit...
Update: after writing this I looked up my reservation again- the 748 has been changed on the FRA - PEK - FRA route has been changed for a triple 7
Seems the schedule change mail where I couldn't find any changes meant something after all. For some reason I've still got my upper deck seat reservation and can't change it...
I'll be doing a short trip report (including the NZ flight AKL to NAN and the Pacific Island Air flight to the Resort), probably after I get back on the 7th.
I just hope there will be no change to the planes - 747-800 and 787-900 should all offer lie flats and (hopefully) the most up-to-date hard product.
Can anyone provide information on the check-in times? If check-in opens up only two hours in advance I might be stuck landside for a bit...
Update: after writing this I looked up my reservation again- the 748 has been changed on the FRA - PEK - FRA route has been changed for a triple 7
Seems the schedule change mail where I couldn't find any changes meant something after all. For some reason I've still got my upper deck seat reservation and can't change it...
Last edited by frogster; Apr 12, 2017 at 11:55 am
Apr 12, 2017, 11:42 pm
#32
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: United Mileage Plus
Posts: 86
When will you depart?
I'll be doing a short trip report (including the NZ flight AKL to NAN and the Pacific Island Air flight to the Resort), probably after I get back on the 7th.
I just hope there will be no change to the planes - 747-800 and 787-900 should all offer lie flats and (hopefully) the most up-to-date hard product.
Can anyone provide information on the check-in times? If check-in opens up only two hours in advance I might be stuck landside for a bit...
Update: after writing this I looked up my reservation again- the 748 has been changed on the FRA - PEK - FRA route has been changed for a triple 7
Seems the schedule change mail where I couldn't find any changes meant something after all. For some reason I've still got my upper deck seat reservation and can't change it...
I'll be doing a short trip report (including the NZ flight AKL to NAN and the Pacific Island Air flight to the Resort), probably after I get back on the 7th.
I just hope there will be no change to the planes - 747-800 and 787-900 should all offer lie flats and (hopefully) the most up-to-date hard product.
Can anyone provide information on the check-in times? If check-in opens up only two hours in advance I might be stuck landside for a bit...
Update: after writing this I looked up my reservation again- the 748 has been changed on the FRA - PEK - FRA route has been changed for a triple 7
Seems the schedule change mail where I couldn't find any changes meant something after all. For some reason I've still got my upper deck seat reservation and can't change it...
Apr 13, 2017, 2:51 am
#33
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germany
Programs: *G, OWS
Posts: 214
All are lie-flats and I assume that the seats are pretty much the same.
There are severeal reasons would prefer the 748:
- I spent enough time aboard 77Ws already - there are few Jumbo routes left and i've never been onboard a 748
- The 748 is the flagship - usually those get the better crews
- Upper Deck!
- The 748 is (on average) much newer than the 77W
There are severeal reasons would prefer the 748:
- I spent enough time aboard 77Ws already - there are few Jumbo routes left and i've never been onboard a 748
- The 748 is the flagship - usually those get the better crews
- Upper Deck!
- The 748 is (on average) much newer than the 77W
Apr 14, 2017, 6:19 am
#34
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,477
I'll be trying them out in J on FRA - PEK- AKL next weekend. With their product (when it's on sale) being so much cheaper than the alternatives it will be interesting to see if you get what you pay for...
Does anyone know when their check-in at FRA opens? I'll be arriving with a colleague departing earlier on a different airline so it would be nice if I could check in earlier and spend the time inside one of the lounges...
Does anyone know when their check-in at FRA opens? I'll be arriving with a colleague departing earlier on a different airline so it would be nice if I could check in earlier and spend the time inside one of the lounges...
Apr 14, 2017, 10:57 am
#37
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SHA ✈ LIS ✈ NYC
Programs: IHG Spire, CA Gold
Posts: 59
I agree with those who support Air China. Yeah the food is not as good as LH, but the beds are flat, they're comfortable, and the service is reasonably attentive. They may not know how to mix drinks perfectly, but you'll get by.
I can't agree that there are any safety issues with Air China. While I take airlineratings with a huge grain of salt, they've awarded CA 7 stars for safety (which is top marks). http://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/59/air-china
I can't agree that there are any safety issues with Air China. While I take airlineratings with a huge grain of salt, they've awarded CA 7 stars for safety (which is top marks). http://www.airlineratings.com/ratings/59/air-china
But the service especially from cabin crew still need to learn much from LH
Apr 14, 2017, 11:00 am
#39
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Posts: 9,455
Apr 15, 2017, 10:02 am
#42
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germany
Programs: *G, OWS
Posts: 214
No cellphones is a competitive disadvantage for all Chinese airlines- at least in my flight today this was strictly enforced in J
I posted a longer trip review in the dedicated subsection. to summarize: I was positively surprised. There even was a stewardess speaking fluent (like a native speaker) German - the English announcements I couldn't understand though...
I posted a longer trip review in the dedicated subsection. to summarize: I was positively surprised. There even was a stewardess speaking fluent (like a native speaker) German - the English announcements I couldn't understand though...
Apr 23, 2017, 8:01 pm
#44
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,226
It's the same seat that UA uses on their 787 and LH uses on their new business class. 2x2x2 lie flat. Entertainment system is slow and doesn't offer much but food and drink will be OK. If you bring your own entertainment on an iPad (not on your phone) you'll have a very pleasant flight.
Apr 28, 2017, 1:36 am
#45
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: TK*G (E+), IHG Plat Ambassador
Posts: 7,884
I just flew FRA-PEK-MEL (EUR 1500 'Black Friday sale' they had in November 2016).
Great food, very nice F/A's with good command of English, OK seats, mediocre IFE. Transit in PEK was still OK'ish - I cleared immigration and security in 20 minutes (disclaimer: I sometimes make connections at IAH flying to Central America; after IAH 'experience', PEK still looks good).
Great food, very nice F/A's with good command of English, OK seats, mediocre IFE. Transit in PEK was still OK'ish - I cleared immigration and security in 20 minutes (disclaimer: I sometimes make connections at IAH flying to Central America; after IAH 'experience', PEK still looks good).