May 24, 2013, 7:54 pm
Last edit by: coolfish1103
Google doc for China Airlines & Starlux Airlines
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
Information for Airlines based in Taiwan
Dec 19, 2013, 12:00 pm
#211
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I think so too. The A359 will arrive too late to help with the immediate need for more capacity. I assume the A343 is still leaving ASAP but now I think the 744 retirement dates will be pushed back.
Dec 19, 2013, 3:46 pm
#212
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No first?
Really no first class? So what is the point of having the new first class lounge in Taipei terminal 2? Not only a waste of money when just 15months later getting rid of first class but also a failure from the customers using it.
It's already a ghost town with first class passengers preferring the old first class lounge. Well I am mixed feelings about this especially if they make upgrading from economy like BR's 70,000 miles.. However you'd hope there was a massive improvement in the business product. Might sway me to purchase economy plus on long hauls...
What you this about it being reverse herringbone layout? Could we see a coffin class like Cathay had? Exciting times ahead..
One other thing... Will they put the 747 back on the Amsterdam route or the new 777's next year?
It's already a ghost town with first class passengers preferring the old first class lounge. Well I am mixed feelings about this especially if they make upgrading from economy like BR's 70,000 miles.. However you'd hope there was a massive improvement in the business product. Might sway me to purchase economy plus on long hauls...
What you this about it being reverse herringbone layout? Could we see a coffin class like Cathay had? Exciting times ahead..
One other thing... Will they put the 747 back on the Amsterdam route or the new 777's next year?
Dec 19, 2013, 6:23 pm
#213
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Which one can fit more seats in the same space: herringbone (reversed or not) or staggered?
Dec 20, 2013, 5:44 am
#214
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It's already a ghost town with first class passengers preferring the old first class lounge. Well I am mixed feelings about this especially if they make upgrading from economy like BR's 70,000 miles.. However you'd hope there was a massive improvement in the business product. Might sway me to purchase economy plus on long hauls...
Staggered fits more. See Emirates 77W.
Dec 20, 2013, 12:08 pm
#215
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What is the latest estimate on A359 delivery? 2018?
Dec 22, 2013, 4:53 am
#216
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No
The a350's are expected for delievery from begining of 2016.
If they replace the a340's and put them to pasture it would be silly to change the layout to a higher density.
So when will they stop first class to the US?
If they replace the a340's and put them to pasture it would be silly to change the layout to a higher density.
So when will they stop first class to the US?
Dec 22, 2013, 8:20 am
#217
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Unless they start selling F as J and J as Y+ (which I doubt).
Jan 9, 2014, 4:39 am
#219
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Really no first class? So what is the point of having the new first class lounge in Taipei terminal 2? Not only a waste of money when just 15months later getting rid of first class but also a failure from the customers using it.
It's already a ghost town with first class passengers preferring the old first class lounge.
It's already a ghost town with first class passengers preferring the old first class lounge.
Jan 17, 2014, 4:31 am
#220
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hmm
Eva air is not impressive from many accounts.
Their old first class lounge is fine for many. Just they stuffed up with the new first class. I am sure the fualt of who they picked to design it. I pretty sure it will be re done if it continues to be unpopular.
Jan 24, 2014, 4:30 pm
#221
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TransAsia Airways (GE) launches its own LCC called V-Air. Will beat CI-backed TigerAir Taiwan to air first.
http://centreforaviation.com/news/tr...y-v-air-301898
http://centreforaviation.com/news/tr...y-v-air-301898
Feb 20, 2014, 8:26 am
#222
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CI's 777's and 747's
Just following the conversation on Airliners
(http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5999454/)
Some things they were discussing surprised me. I wondered if others on here thought the same..
First thing was that a couple of the was some estimation about having 60J class seating (On the new 777w's) where i was more likely expecting 34-42J Business section and a mid sized 30-50 Premium economy section. CI tends to have a smaller Business class on average compared to other airlines. BR seems to be the same as well.
Also another thing which quite a few posters seem to point to is that the 747's will be retired almost straight after the 777w's enter service apart from the latest 4 models. Funny considering they spent the money on renewing the interiors only 18 months ago.
(http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5999454/)
Some things they were discussing surprised me. I wondered if others on here thought the same..
First thing was that a couple of the was some estimation about having 60J class seating (On the new 777w's) where i was more likely expecting 34-42J Business section and a mid sized 30-50 Premium economy section. CI tends to have a smaller Business class on average compared to other airlines. BR seems to be the same as well.
Also another thing which quite a few posters seem to point to is that the 747's will be retired almost straight after the 777w's enter service apart from the latest 4 models. Funny considering they spent the money on renewing the interiors only 18 months ago.
Feb 20, 2014, 1:24 pm
#223
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Just following the conversation on Airliners
(http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5999454/)
Some things they were discussing surprised me. I wondered if others on here thought the same..
First thing was that a couple of the was some estimation about having 60J class seating (On the new 777w's) where i was more likely expecting 34-42J Business section and a mid sized 30-50 Premium economy section. CI tends to have a smaller Business class on average compared to other airlines. BR seems to be the same as well.
Also another thing which quite a few posters seem to point to is that the 747's will be retired almost straight after the 777w's enter service apart from the latest 4 models. Funny considering they spent the money on renewing the interiors only 18 months ago.
(http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5999454/)
Some things they were discussing surprised me. I wondered if others on here thought the same..
First thing was that a couple of the was some estimation about having 60J class seating (On the new 777w's) where i was more likely expecting 34-42J Business section and a mid sized 30-50 Premium economy section. CI tends to have a smaller Business class on average compared to other airlines. BR seems to be the same as well.
Also another thing which quite a few posters seem to point to is that the 747's will be retired almost straight after the 777w's enter service apart from the latest 4 models. Funny considering they spent the money on renewing the interiors only 18 months ago.
On the second point, I'm surprised that all the old P&W 744 will go before A343. I guess CI will keep the A343 around longer due to cockpit/crew commonality with A330?
Feb 20, 2014, 6:39 pm
#224
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It's 40 seats on Business Class.
I am not too sure how they are speculating 60 seats on reversed herringbone (from 744's 12F/49J?). That's suggesting an almost non-existent Premium Economy section.
I am not too sure how they are speculating 60 seats on reversed herringbone (from 744's 12F/49J?). That's suggesting an almost non-existent Premium Economy section.
Feb 20, 2014, 7:19 pm
#225
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Okay 40J class was my upper expectations. I think if i remember the A350's will have 36J seating. So i guess that its about right. Well whether they get rid of the 747's seems to depend how fast they can open up China. Especially onward connecting traffic (for mainland citizens) which is impossible unless you fly through HK or Macau. I know their seasonal route using the 747 to Brisbane and Auckland was really a big success.
I flew 3 times to BNE in December and February. Almost all flights were at like 97-99% capacity. So they cant be making a loss on that.
I flew 3 times to BNE in December and February. Almost all flights were at like 97-99% capacity. So they cant be making a loss on that.