Keeping minimum post count for CC secret?
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Keeping minimum post count for CC secret?
I saw Randy's nice post on the new requirements to access Coupon Connection. He mentioned that the new minimum was 90 days and X number of posts.
I think letting people know the minimum waiting period is fine, but does anyone else think that letting people know that minimum post count will open FT to more of the spamming that went on in the past?
Is there a gray area between telling people and scaring people off?
On another CC note, I am glad that the new requirements have been implemented. There were far too many people who had joined FT earlier this year and had few posts to their credit active in CC. I also noticed that alot of long-time FTers with not that many posts were grandfathered in. Is this the case or does the new requirements keep them out as well?
I think letting people know the minimum waiting period is fine, but does anyone else think that letting people know that minimum post count will open FT to more of the spamming that went on in the past?
Is there a gray area between telling people and scaring people off?
On another CC note, I am glad that the new requirements have been implemented. There were far too many people who had joined FT earlier this year and had few posts to their credit active in CC. I also noticed that alot of long-time FTers with not that many posts were grandfathered in. Is this the case or does the new requirements keep them out as well?
Last edited by CApreppie; Jul 9, 2005 at 12:08 am Reason: Add'l text
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Understand that any moderator can "take away" posts if it is felt someone is "padding" their post count.
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Originally Posted by wharvey
Understand that any moderator can "take away" posts if it is felt someone is "padding" their post count.
If people play nice, they gain access to the entire playground... if they don't, well......
William
If people play nice, they gain access to the entire playground... if they don't, well......
William
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Originally Posted by anotherbrian
This isn't really a post to pad my count, but I just noticed that my access to the CC disappeared in the last few days. Thanks for the explanation. 

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Originally Posted by mikey2007
Hahah same here... I noticed OMNI disapeared a while before CC, but then today CC disappeared, kinda disappointing that we didn't get grandfathered in 

It's Randy's board, he is the master. He is doing his best to make this the best forums possible for us users. Since we pay him $0.00, I don't think we have much to complain about. I'm sure he appreciates constructive critisism, but hopefully he doesn't get so much bs this time around with the changes.
By the way, anyone heard about when or if the paid, ad-free version of flyertalk might come out?
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As a new person here I have a couple of observations.
When I first discovered this site I signed up right away. While exploring the site the OMNI section came to my attention. I clicked on the link on the tool bar and got a rather curt message telling me that I wasn't approved for the forum. It suggested that I check the Announcements forum for info, and I could not access that either.
Last week I discovered some threads that gave some insight into what the OMNI forum was, and why I can't access it. While I don't quarrel with the policy per se, I think it should be spelled out in the FAQs for new members.
I participated in the signature thread while it was in the AA forum, and when I logged back on later and found it had been moved and made inaccessible to me I was disappointed that I could no longer follow the discussion.
And finally, tongue firmly in cheek, what are you afraid of if minimum posting requirements for access to the various features are made public? Posting runs?
When I first discovered this site I signed up right away. While exploring the site the OMNI section came to my attention. I clicked on the link on the tool bar and got a rather curt message telling me that I wasn't approved for the forum. It suggested that I check the Announcements forum for info, and I could not access that either.
Last week I discovered some threads that gave some insight into what the OMNI forum was, and why I can't access it. While I don't quarrel with the policy per se, I think it should be spelled out in the FAQs for new members.
I participated in the signature thread while it was in the AA forum, and when I logged back on later and found it had been moved and made inaccessible to me I was disappointed that I could no longer follow the discussion.
And finally, tongue firmly in cheek, what are you afraid of if minimum posting requirements for access to the various features are made public? Posting runs?
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I just noticed I no longer have CC access, which is a bit of a gutter as I was about to post in it for the first time 
Can anyone have a guess at what the required post count or membership length is?

Can anyone have a guess at what the required post count or membership length is?
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
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Originally Posted by mikey2007
Hahah same here... I noticed OMNI disapeared a while before CC, but then today CC disappeared, kinda disappointing that we didn't get grandfathered in 

So if you are still interested in that UA 15% Friends Plus Coupon for your BDL - SIN trip, and didn't get one from someone else, please send me a PM with your mailing address.
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Originally Posted by mikey2007
Hahah same here... I noticed OMNI disapeared a while before CC, but then today CC disappeared, kinda disappointing that we didn't get grandfathered in 

I'm disappointed, but I understand that sometimes, it's not necessarily possible to do that.I do understand the fear with telling people the minimum post requirements for various forums, as it might lead to people posting things just to boost their post count. At least for me though, while I know the minimum for CC, I also knew that they could say "These posts don't count." It's actually made me be more careful of what I post, but it's also encouraged me to read more than just my normal few sections of the board.
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Actually you were all grandfathered in. The original and continuing intent of FlyerTalk is to provide the best possible source of information about frequent flyer programs in the world and to that degree, have grandfathered in all members toward that purpose.
Now, you don't actually have to psot at all to enjoy this live referecne library of miles and points. That is why we don't post any requirements. We assume that our lurker audience is just as supportive and active toward learning information valuable to their miles, points and travel. As far as i know, anyone just visiting for the first time on FlyerTalk has full access to these topics. Am I missing something? Please let me know if you care not able to view United Mileage Plus, Marriott Rewards, British Airways Executive Club, Hyatt Gold Passport or other similar forums related to travel, miles and points and I'll see that the tech guys get it fixed for you.
Thanks.
Now, you don't actually have to psot at all to enjoy this live referecne library of miles and points. That is why we don't post any requirements. We assume that our lurker audience is just as supportive and active toward learning information valuable to their miles, points and travel. As far as i know, anyone just visiting for the first time on FlyerTalk has full access to these topics. Am I missing something? Please let me know if you care not able to view United Mileage Plus, Marriott Rewards, British Airways Executive Club, Hyatt Gold Passport or other similar forums related to travel, miles and points and I'll see that the tech guys get it fixed for you.
Thanks.
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I totally appreciate the resouces that FT makes available. Just being the spoiled american hate giving something up, but am totally understandable as to why that has happened. In due time I will get it back, and irregardless of CC or OMNI I am still able to enjoy all the other resources on here, that honestly are PRICELESS.
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How were we grandfathered in?
A few weeks ago I could see Coupon Connection. Now it is gone. Lots of other content is still visible. Is this what you mean by grandfathered in?
Before I post on this forum or other boards I think hard about whether my post will add value, so I have not run up a large post count. Is this the FT reward for not being a blabbermouth? Thank you for the incredibly valuable service that FT is to all of us, but please re-re-think this CC and OMNI policy.
Before I post on this forum or other boards I think hard about whether my post will add value, so I have not run up a large post count. Is this the FT reward for not being a blabbermouth? Thank you for the incredibly valuable service that FT is to all of us, but please re-re-think this CC and OMNI policy.
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Actually I do re-think the change almost daily. for instance, today i politely turned down the request for an exception to a member of two years that had 100 percent of 82 posts in CC; another who only had 6 posts total and all were in CC; another with 8 posts total and all were in CC; another who only had one post total; another who wanted in and had yet to post a single time on FlyerTalk. Of the 15 members who have contacted me recently to try and get an exception into CC - 11 of them had post averages in the CC forum of greater than 87 percent of the time. I'm sorry, i can't see 87 percent of your time on FT in CC as something that's really going to make me a better traveler. I want your experiences, i want your opinions i want you to assist making FlyerTalk valuable to the next person who visits this Web site.
I very much appreciated all the input. I would like to ask bobovespa a question: you don't have any problem with any passenger at all getting in front of you in line to board an oversold flight correct? The reason i ask that is i see you are EXP which is something to be very proud of. I'd like your thoughts if AA gave every passenger the very same benefits you enjoy. Or when checking in at the next Sheraton if the "upgrade" was not available since the hotel gave the best room away an hour ago to the next person who just happened to be checking in. The point being is that in the case of EXP, you just didn't get if by not flying much. At Starwood by not staying a lot of times at their properties. There is a reward at FT for being a blabbermouth, similar to the rewards you get from American Airlines and Starwood for traveling a lot. Neither of us are denying you anything, but all of us require something in return. I think it easier to talk about your life as a frequent traveler than flying 100,000 miles with American. I'll look at your request bobovespa, but i'm hoping you aren't in that category that has spent 87% of your time on FT in CC.
I very much appreciated all the input. I would like to ask bobovespa a question: you don't have any problem with any passenger at all getting in front of you in line to board an oversold flight correct? The reason i ask that is i see you are EXP which is something to be very proud of. I'd like your thoughts if AA gave every passenger the very same benefits you enjoy. Or when checking in at the next Sheraton if the "upgrade" was not available since the hotel gave the best room away an hour ago to the next person who just happened to be checking in. The point being is that in the case of EXP, you just didn't get if by not flying much. At Starwood by not staying a lot of times at their properties. There is a reward at FT for being a blabbermouth, similar to the rewards you get from American Airlines and Starwood for traveling a lot. Neither of us are denying you anything, but all of us require something in return. I think it easier to talk about your life as a frequent traveler than flying 100,000 miles with American. I'll look at your request bobovespa, but i'm hoping you aren't in that category that has spent 87% of your time on FT in CC.




