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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 8:51 pm
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Thank you, Randy. Excellent decision. ^

The reason I came back to this forum for the first time since the "Reputation" contretemps is that I was wondering why my post count seemed to be "stuck" over the past two days. What can I say, it was the Feast of the Assumption (15 August), and I had a few things I wanted to get off my chest about a putative denial of Communion.

It is the nature of Flyer Talkers to "game" the system, whether as to Points, Miles, reputation points, or post counts. It is human nature, and particularly attention-to-detail frequent-flyer nature.

Your fix "solves" one part of that loophole, a loophole taken advantage of, actually, by some of our best participants and most helpful members.

The remaining question is whether to allow the intellectual elite (or creative ones, computer experts, or simply obsessed) among us -- I plead guilty to the latter as to reputation (!) -- to keep their ill-gotten gains.

I'm sure adjusting our point totals to exclude OMNI retroactively would not be a major, costly project, but could be done simply with relatively few programming keystrokes.

To promote the essential mission and focus of Flyer Talk, namely Points and Miles, and to further fundamental fairness amongst all participants, I recommend -- even at the possible loss of 20% or more of my own posts -- that prior OMNI posts be eliminated from the postcount.
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Whatever you decide, Randy, thanks for listening, and thanks for all the blessings you provide to so many of us.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by attorney28
skofarrell sounds kind of bitter .
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by RobotDoctor
I did not read that into his post. I think skofarrell is being practical here. FlyerTalk is a free board for us and there are those who want Randy to sink additional resources into modifying this board. While some of the requests add value, I fail to see what value is added here. It appears to me this is more of a vanity issue than anything else. This community is not that large when broken down into the segments that each member travels to. I generally scan 6 to 10 forums regularly and know who are the significant contributers and those who offer little. I do this by reading posts, not by looking at a post count total. I do contribute to Omni and can say that a great many of my posts there, maybe all of them (probably 1/2 of my total posts) contribute little to travel and programs. However, approximately 1/2 of my posts are in travel related forums but not all of those add specific information regarding programs and travel assistance.

What is next, eliminate any post that contains only a smiley, then remove the rants that we all have posted, then what else? I think that FlyerTalk is fine just the way it is.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Athena53
I think it's a great idea. I enjoy Omni, but that's not what FT is about. Maybe some of the poeple who post on Omni 50 times per day will find something else to do!
This assumes that people post on OMNI not for the enjoyment, but to inflate their post counts. After all, post counts do actually mean something, right?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by skofarrell
After all, post counts do actually mean something, right?
No, they don't.

That is why I was surprised when jfe quoted my post and said "you people take this way too seriously."

I specifically said I would have made that suggestion "if I really thought that the post count meant anything."

Oh, well. I guess jfe's shoe is just fitting too well.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:43 pm
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I wish the post restriction was removed from SPAM. It was my favorite place. I am a person who values MyPoints, easy United miles and a random free samples/magazines. I also posted things I found and helped someone get an iPod and Flat Screen.

Tonight was the first time I ventured out of the Miles & Points section. Omni seemed like a cool place where you do not know what the next topic was going to be about.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Amanda
Tonight was the first time I ventured out of the Miles & Points section. Omni seemed like a cool place where you do not know what the next topic was going to be about.
Welcome to the dark side, Amanda.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 7:32 am
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Help a bitter man understand post counts

With all due respect to the OP, focus on post counts is puzzling to me. I've seen people on FT with very high posts counts act in a derisive manner a lot of the time, and I've seen people with very low post counts operate in the same manner. So can someone help me understand the fixation on "post count"?

My preference for judging someone's "value" to the community is to focus on what the person posts, not how many times they've posted.

So again, what's to gain by tinkering with a number?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by skofarrell

So again, what's to gain by tinkering with a number?
Randy agrees with the OP, and feels there is something to gain it seems.


Originally Posted by Randy Petersen

We have decided to implement a couple of changes to help manage the continued growth of FlyerTalk. Here are the changes:

- OMNI posts will no longer count toward a member's total post count.

FlyerTalk's original mission and intent was to serve as a place where frequent travelers could exchange, in a positive manner, information and opinions about frequent flyer miles and points and the greater topic of travel.

This is still our mission and we want to acknowledge those members who contribute to making FlyerTalk the leading online community of frequent travelers. OMNI, as many of you know, is more of a member requested sideline, and while it serves to build community bonds, it certainly veers from the core FlyerTalk topics.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Randy agrees with the OP, and feels there is something to gain it seems.
Clearly. I'm not questioning the decision. My question focuses more on why people put so much value into the number.

Again, I think what you post is much more important that how many times you've posted. Hence my puzzlement (and bitterness, I guess)...
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 8:56 am
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Personally, I would like to see the reputation feature come back.

How about bringing that back and disabling it in OMNI?

Of course, we'd still have the childish members who ding others for childish reasons

But real, honest member feedback is more helpful than number of posts.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by skofarrell
Again, I think what you post is much more important that how many times you've posted.
I agree.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 11:52 am
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Thanks for the welcome RobotDoctor.

I agree that low posters can participate in a positive way. There used to be some very high posters that were only here to stir things up. I am glad they have worked to ban those people.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Amanda
Thanks for the welcome RobotDoctor.

I agree that low posters can participate in a positive way. There used to be some very high posters that were only here to stir things up. I am glad they have worked to ban those people.
Amanda, I am trying to be good. Honest.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
Personally, I would like to see the reputation feature come back.

How about bringing that back and disabling it in OMNI?

Of course, we'd still have the childish members who ding others for childish reasons

But real, honest member feedback is more helpful than number of posts.
I agree with you Doppy. ^
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