Randy, please KEEP reputation!
May 4, 2004 | 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
I do not know why it was turned off, but if it was just because of OZSTAMPS numerous complaints, then it should certainly be turned on again. One should look how many posts OZSTAMPS made in ORP in the last few weeks. Why did he hate the feature so much ? He had it turned off for himself (which was a very good option for those who disliked the rep. feature) anyway. He prevented himself from getting a BLING from me for his helpful posts in the UA forum.
I guess that way less than 1% of FT members disliked the reputation feature which had good requirements to be met before one could use it. Just 5% of the FT members used it anyway I would say. And the vast majority did never care and does not even visit ORP to read all the complaints poor Randy has to deal with.
Why has a great feature/tool to be been turned off, if just a tiny fraction of FT members disapprove with it ???
I guess that way less than 1% of FT members disliked the reputation feature which had good requirements to be met before one could use it. Just 5% of the FT members used it anyway I would say. And the vast majority did never care and does not even visit ORP to read all the complaints poor Randy has to deal with.
Why has a great feature/tool to be been turned off, if just a tiny fraction of FT members disapprove with it ???
And where did the 1% figure come from? Please enlighten me.
May 4, 2004 | 10:26 am
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What difference does it make if the original pupose of the rep feature was not meant for enjoyment or community building. If it turned out that it was enjoyable and that it did build community (despite the misuse by a small group), why not keep it? It is apparent by the huge growth in traffic and the huge volume of posts, that most people loved it.
I know that most of my "blings" were on posts not in the ORP forum. When I saw a nice post, I would "bling" it just as a quick way of saying, "You brightened my day, so I would like to brighten yours."
If the offenders are dealt with, and guidlines are established, this could still be a fabulous tool.
I know that most of my "blings" were on posts not in the ORP forum. When I saw a nice post, I would "bling" it just as a quick way of saying, "You brightened my day, so I would like to brighten yours."
If the offenders are dealt with, and guidlines are established, this could still be a fabulous tool.
May 4, 2004 | 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by Punki
What difference does it make if the original pupose of the rep feature was not meant for enjoyment or community building. If it turned out that it was enjoyable and that it did build community (despite the misuse by a small group), why not keep it? It is apparent by the huge growth in traffic and the huge volume of posts, that most people loved it.
For the pleasure the majority enjoyed (assuming it is in fact a majority & I'll go with your assessment), it wasn't worth the headaches the minority inflicted.
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May 4, 2004 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by Punki
It is apparent by the huge growth in traffic and the huge volume of posts, that most people loved it.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flyertalk.com/
Now not even I am going to say that is due to "reputation", (which I hope refutes your equally rubbery claim!) but it was an interesting post I saw today that had this link.
If you are simply talking about the large number of posts in this Forum, I am not at all sure you could claim "most" of them loved the feature - even if you narrow all members down to one vote and sort their views - for or against.
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May 4, 2004 | 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Curiously since the 'new FT' traffic appears to have declined a lot? :
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flyertalk.com/
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flyertalk.com/
But then again, the data does show the fact that FT was down for those two weeks, and when you consider the fact that it is just averaging the numbers, they do make sense.
Also, traffic is going to be down with all the new features, my favorite, subscriptions ^
I can only go and see what I want, get alerted on the threads I want, and the New Posts is awesome.
More efficient browsing, less traffic.
If anything, reputation generated more traffic, as you can see in the "views" column
May 4, 2004 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by RKG
Oh, come on! It wasn't turned off because of ozstamps. It was turned off because a few posters could not control their juvenile tendencies. THEY ruined it for everyone...
And where did the 1% figure come from? Please enlighten me.
And where did the 1% figure come from? Please enlighten me.
P.S.
I respect ScottC's point and Randy's as well, but you could have left http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318519 open!!!
^ I actually was the first one to ask questions about the reputation in OMNI on day 1 of the new software and ScottC also closed this thread.
If my threads get closed after three posts, then I better leave this online community.
May 4, 2004 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by jfe
Wow, that is real interesting stuff.
But then again, the data does show the fact that FT was down for those two weeks, and when you consider the fact that it is just averaging the numbers, they do make sense.
Also, traffic is going to be down with all the new features, my favorite, subscriptions ^
I can only go and see what I want, get alerted on the threads I want, and the New Posts is awesome.
More efficient browsing, less traffic.
I suspect only a very small % of FT'ers use that but it will grow once folks discover it.
May 4, 2004 | 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
I doubt that 317 members of FT hated the reputation feature, I am not sure, but just have the feeling that the number who disliked the system is even smaller.
P.S. I respect ScottC's point and Randy's as well, but you could have left http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318519 open!!!
^ I recall ScottC was pretty keen on it to start with, and seems to have markedly changed his view, based on the link you just give, and says this today:
Originally Posted by ScottC
Randy took the decision to turn it off and personally I'd like to leave it at that.
IMHO nothing has ever been this destructive for the community and I hope we can all get back to MILES AND POINTS, the purpose of this board.
IMHO nothing has ever been this destructive for the community and I hope we can all get back to MILES AND POINTS, the purpose of this board.
May 5, 2004 | 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by Dovster
(SMessier, in fact, seems to have dinged everybody. I don't know if he felt it is neater that way. One could even argue that it s messier.)
Where did I go wrong?
(And here's another psuedo-bling to Dovster for the outrageous pun.
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May 5, 2004 | 2:36 am
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No need to speculate........... why not just start a poll..????
I think the final poll would be something like 85% in favor vs. 15% against this feature.
I think the final poll would be something like 85% in favor vs. 15% against this feature.
May 5, 2004 | 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
I would like to see a real poll, started by Randy Petersen, where we could vote in favour of or against the reputation feature. A democratic decision whether it should be turned on or not. @:-) ^
Why has a great feature/tool to be been turned off, if just a tiny fraction of FT members disapprove with it ???
May 5, 2004 | 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by Punki
What difference does it make if the original pupose of the rep feature was not meant for enjoyment or community building. If it turned out that it was enjoyable and that it did build community (despite the misuse by a small group), why not keep it? It is apparent by the huge growth in traffic and the huge volume of posts, that most people loved it.
I know that most of my "blings" were on posts not in the ORP forum. When I saw a nice post, I would "bling" it just as a quick way of saying, "You brightened my day, so I would like to brighten yours."
If the offenders are dealt with, and guidlines are established, this could still be a fabulous tool.
I know that most of my "blings" were on posts not in the ORP forum. When I saw a nice post, I would "bling" it just as a quick way of saying, "You brightened my day, so I would like to brighten yours."
If the offenders are dealt with, and guidlines are established, this could still be a fabulous tool.
I hope that 'reputation' will come back - and you are on my list for a 'bling'...
May 5, 2004 | 6:52 am
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start a poll?
May 5, 2004 | 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by Pointfreak!
Does this forum software not have the built in ability to do formal poll's? Most do these days...
Then again, you know what happens when new features are turned on
May 5, 2004 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
No need to speculate........... why not just start a poll..????
I think the final poll would be something like 85% in favor vs. 15% against this feature.
I think the final poll would be something like 85% in favor vs. 15% against this feature.