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SPN Lifer Apr 24, 2004 5:19 am

Under the current system, the "comments" are viewable solely by the recipient. This provides an excellent opportunity for private feedback not previously available to those who preferred not to publicize their e-mail addresses.

The concept behind your suggestion is good, but it can already be employed publicly in the very thread involved. Of course, if closed in Coupon Connection, you may need to ask the moderator to open it so you can do so.

ozstamps Apr 24, 2004 5:58 am


Originally Posted by Counsellor

I agree completely!

People who would do something like that are the type of people we don't need in this Community. Lawyers call it "moral turpitude" but most folk just call it basic dishonesty. It's one thing to snipe from hiding, that's only cowardly; the person who tries to stir up hatred or distrust between others is malicious.

In my opinion, that sort of malice is evil - it eats at the heart of the relationships that strengthen the community.

Well come Monday I hope myself, doc, PremEx, Punki and all the others whom the cowards have left fake signed nasty mesaages are visible to Randy and Admin.

And all get drop kicked to Greenland for their stupidity and malice.

anonplz Apr 24, 2004 7:56 am


Originally Posted by Punki
As for normal dings, this is also a perfect solution. In the future if I get a ding from someone on my ignore user list, well, I guess I'll just ignore them. ;) If I get a ding from someone I like, I will contact them privately and try to understand their thinking.

Works for me. :)

^ Just like ebay. :)

anonplz Apr 24, 2004 7:57 am


Originally Posted by Counsellor
In my opinion, that sort of malice is evil - it eats at the heart of the relationships that strengthen the community.

Yes, indeed.

fredmartens Apr 24, 2004 9:14 am

I hope to God that people here aren't really hurt by these "dings". C'mon, do you really care? If somebody doesn't like your post, you get a ding. It's a ding on FT, not a personal character assassination.

For instance, I notice Spiff gets "dings" because he's outspoken about the TSA and defending what he views as our Constitutional freedoms. At least he takes a stand that makes people think and let 'em know where he's at (OK, so some roll their eyes). Personally, I repect a person's willingness to take a stand and speak their mind whether I, in my infinite wisdom, agree or not. There's none of this concern about a popularity contest (which life ain't, boys and girls). Taking a stand on merit and a contrary opinion takes conviction, fortitude and guts (unless merely trolling)...as does voicing one's opinion, whether it's popular or not.

Then there's the extra positive points for folks such as, say, missydarlin and ScottC. Well deserved, as we all know, for their selfless contributions of knowledge, valuable information and kindness on FT, but do we really need to "rate" them? These are already highly respected members of this community and will remain so long after any "ratings" disappear. IMHO, the potential for damage goes far beyond the good that these things do.

FWIW, I'd like to see these little reputation point icons disappear. Anyone who's been around FT for awhile knows who's who and what their "reputations" are...there's really little need for these rating points.

Personally, I don't need ratings to determine whether I like someone or want to read their posts; that is, I don't need my thinking and opinions formulated for me. These icons lend no credibility to the poster but indicate a level of hierarchy, smugness and political popularity, that, IMHO, is not the essence of what this place is all about. Or was before these silly little things appeared and caused such a stir.

ScottC Apr 24, 2004 9:55 am

Now the system is changing I no longer know who to ping or ding :D

HigherFlyer Apr 24, 2004 9:59 am


Originally Posted by fredmartens
For instance, I notice Spiff gets "dings" because he's outspoken about the TSA and defending what he views as our Constitutional freedoms. At least he takes a stand that makes people think and let 'em know where he's at (OK, so some roll their eyes). Personally, I repect a person's willingness to take a stand and speak their mind whether I, in my infinite wisdom, agree or not. There's none of this concern about a popularity contest (which life ain't, boys and girls). Taking a stand on merit and a contrary opinion takes conviction, fortitude and guts (unless merely trolling)...as does voicing one's opinion, whether it's popular or not.

Indeed. One particular FT'er is going to owe Spiff a BIG public apology when he finds out that I'm the one who recommended he travel to the former Soviet Union, not Spiff, as he cross posted all over FT.

ScottC Apr 24, 2004 10:00 am


Originally Posted by HigherFlyer
Indeed. One particular FT'er is going to owe Spiff a BIG public apology when he finds out that I'm the one who recommended he travel to the former Soviet Union, not Spiff, as he cross posted all over FT.

:eek: :p

Dovster Apr 24, 2004 10:12 am


Originally Posted by ScottC
Now the system is changing I no longer know who to ping or ding :D

There is an old story about a sea captain who went to his safe every morning, took out a piece of paper, read it, and then locked it back up.

He did this every single day for over 20 years.

His entire crew was curious about what was on that paper and when the captain died, they rushed to open the safe to read it.

On it, was written, "Port, left. Starboard, right."

Perhaps the Omni mods could use as their guide: "Bling, left. Ding, right." :)

Dovster
(Actually, I received a very nice bling from Scott.)

ScottC Apr 24, 2004 10:47 am


Originally Posted by Dovster
There is an old story about a sea captain who went to his safe every morning, took out a piece of paper, read it, and then locked it back up.

He did this every single day for over 20 years.

His entire crew was curious about what was on that paper and when the captain died, they rushed to open the safe to read it.

On it, was written, "Port, left. Starboard, right."

Perhaps the Omni mods could use as their guide: "Bling, left. Ding, right." :)

Dovster
(Actually, I received a very nice bling from Scott.)

Are you sure it was from me? You won't know till Monday :D ;)

Mary2e Apr 24, 2004 11:11 am

Darn.... I'm going to be at a conference on Monday and on dial-up, that is, unless I can score a communal PC and log in. Should be an interesting day, that's for sure.

I've given 2 dings. Each to a parasite on the community. One on Coupon Connection and the other on SPAM. Both using the good will of people to their advantage. I think they reciprocated, but didn't have enough point power to effect my total. Of course, parasites can & will get more dings than most ;).

This reminds me of the saying "be careful what you ask for, you just might get it."

hfly Apr 24, 2004 4:14 pm

Why do I have the feeling that one of two repeatedly self righteous people around here are going to get severely embarrassed come Monday?

Football Fan Apr 24, 2004 6:03 pm

Hey, if someone is internet-savvy enough to, e.g., run his/her own Internet company or website, he/she might just be internet-savvy enough to know how to raise his/her own rating and give dings or blings or to have plenty of fake IDs like Enquiring Mind or whatever, without it becoming apparent to the administrator of this site :).

Then again, who cares about blings or dings...storm in a teacup :).

ozstamps Apr 24, 2004 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC

it's my opinion that only a FEW people are emailing Randy with complaints, the majority of posters don't give a rats behind about this system

Hmmmm. Don't bet your house on it is my advice. ;)

Sorry, the math in my first post on this thread proves you way wrong.

Before I even started this thread - TWENTY times more FT'ers had viewed JonNYC's thread than the previous "most viewed" threads in this Forum, based on Randy's own figure. And it is much higher now. So FT members DO give a large 'rat's behind' about this issue, that much is irrefutable.

As to your other supposition - I replied to an email from Randy about 14 hours back re something totally unconnected with the "reputation" silliness.

That email bounced back. I just sent it again and the same thing occurred. That has never occurred before with email I have sent him. Unless his address has mysteriously changed from [email protected] (which is where it came from April 23) this is definitely occurring. I can only presume Randy's mailbox is very full with "something"?

Perhaps a lot of nervous folks are "confessing" their sins before Monday and asking forgiveness? Who knows. ;)

But as always, I could be wrong.

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ScottC Apr 24, 2004 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by attorney28
Hey, if someone is internet-savvy enough to, e.g., run his/her own Internet company or website, he/she might just be internet-savvy enough to know how to raise his/her own rating and give dings or blings or to have plenty of fake IDs like Enquiring Mind or whatever, without it becoming apparent to the administrator of this site :).

Then again, who cares about blings or dings...storm in a teacup :).

Interesting but not workable.


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