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AnnaS Sep 18, 2003 12:37 pm

I agree with PremEx regarding that no one is obligated to post here. I myself was a lurker for many months before I ever registered & posted. I have had more chance encounters with FT lurkers than I would've imagined. At least one came up to me in the Admiral's Club when he saw I was on FT chat. Personally, I've derived alot of great information from FT and I tend to only contribute when I feel I have something to say (hence my relatively low post count for my registration date). As for the moderation of the board, I think the moderators are doing a great job on a truly thankless task, IMHO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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ozstamps Sep 18, 2003 12:38 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Gaucho

Im really worried about you ... you still haven't gotten over your 'issues' with that other site, eh ...? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Lighten up, don't be so bitter... its bad for your health... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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Well CameraGuy has linked to that site about 500 times, so he certainly must have an 'issue' with it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

And then accuses others of repeating things "OVER and OVER" which is pretty darn funny. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

I am waiting to see him work in his 501st 'original' post now of:

ой "Pot- kettle - black" ой C.G. 2001/2002/2003/2004(?)

OttoGraham Sep 18, 2003 1:02 pm

We all know CameraGuy got banned from "the other place" for his antics. Fortunately for him and others Randy is much more forgiving. But what possible relevance does his banning have to do with moderation, other than keep picking at a scab which apparently hasn't healed after more than a year?

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FewMiles Sep 18, 2003 2:19 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by OttoGraham:
We all know CameraGuy got banned from "the other place" for his antics.</font>
That is not true.

FewMiles..


Gaucho100K Sep 18, 2003 2:35 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
That is not true.
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Yeah right.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

CameraGuy Sep 18, 2003 5:59 pm

"Bitter" must be the word of the month from the Great Northwest.

As long as some members CONTINUALLY whine about the moderation, I will continue to point them in another direction.

OttoGraham is incorrect as usual, but when has he/she ever let the facts get in the way of an attack.

Pot, Kettle, Black has a "Sister" Saying: "People" in glass houses should not throw stones.

I see that the UA Stalking Patrol has found a new target. One has to wonder why this behaviour is allowed.

THE MODERATION STYLE OF MOVING THREADS TO THE PROPER FORUM IS WHAT MAKES FT USEFUL. TO WEAKEN THAT DIRECTIVE WOULD BE FOOLISH AND WOULD MAKE FT NO BETTER THAN OTHER TRAVEL RELATED BB'S.

Football Fan Sep 18, 2003 7:27 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
(...)As long as some members CONTINUALLY whine about the moderation(...)</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
(...)One has to wonder why this behaviour is allowed.</font>
I have no idea of the history of all of this and I sure do not want to get into it, but aren't you contradicting yourself in your own post? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif

CameraGuy Sep 18, 2003 9:49 pm

How So?

You have taken portions of two seperate statements and linked them together. Out of context I might add.

Punki Sep 18, 2003 10:11 pm

Rudi writes:


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Placing 'misposted' threads into the 'correct' forum, also helps/ others not doing the same 'mistake' again and again (not copying 'others').</font>
I agree this is true for regulars and there is clear evidence that regular posters are making a real effort to think about the proper forum before they post.

Miles Buzz, however, month after month, year after year continues to be filled with closed posts, sometimes almost as many closed as open. Why?

There are those that claim that it is because those who post there are just plain lazy, but I would suggest that it happens because Miles Buzz is at the top of FT Miles and that is the place where new folks naturally go. They have no idea where to post so they post where they are.

Is it possible for the Talk Board and/or the Talk Team to discuss the feasibility of rearranging the forums on the boards? As I have suggested earlier, I think it would be worth a try to put the airline and hotel forums first. If Randy's focus is to guide FT to focus more on miles and points, that would certainly be appropriate.

My concern arises from comments I have received from some of the hundreds of people I have referred to FT over the years. Several have indicated that they find FT very confusing and were turned off by seeing such a high percentage of closed posts in the only forum (Miles Buzz) that they visited. Their impression was that all FT forums where that disjointed.

Repositioning the forums might dramatically reduce the amount of post moving.

ozstamps Sep 18, 2003 10:42 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:

As long as some members CONTINUALLY whine about the moderation, I will continue to point them in another direction.

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No .... you continually whine back about another BB.

Seems like the scores are even to me?

It is surely just like saying the best solution for a burning building is to go ignite all the adjoining ones. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

That is NOT a great or very bright solution.

1000 times more Flyertalkers belong to and use www.BiddingForTravel.com than the site you keep on whining about hundreds of times here.

If you want to experience possibly THE most moderated BB on the web, go visit there. And guess what? That board saves me $1000s each year, and I and all others know in advance the owner has those rather Draconian rules and accept them entirely.

What either board has to do with FT Moderation is ........ ZERO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

cblaisd Sep 18, 2003 10:53 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Punki:
...but I would suggest that it happens because Miles Buzz is at the top of FT Miles and that is the place where new folks naturally go. They have no idea where to post so they post where they are.... I think it would be worth a try to put the airline and hotel forums first...</font>
And notice, therefore, that the logic of your argument means that whatever is at the top will be where folks post because that's "where they are."


Punki Sep 18, 2003 11:15 pm

Actually, cblaisd, I doubt if it would work that way if the listing started out with the airlines alphabetically. Instinctively, new posters would get the picture and just scroll down the list to their particular airline and read and post there.

It would just be a more intuitive, user friendly arrangement. Those of us who have been around from the start, understand the evolution that led to the current positioning of forums, but it is very confusing for newbies.

cblaisd Sep 19, 2003 12:11 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Punki:
Actually, cblaisd, I doubt if it would work that way</font>
Nonetheless that is the logic of your argument.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> if the listing started out with the airlines alphabetically. Instinctively, new posters would get the picture and just scroll down the list to their particular airline and read and post there.

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Which is exactly what they can do now. Unless FT is the very first website they've ever been on and the first time they've ever encountered a scroll-bar on the right side of the screen.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> It would just be a more intuitive, user friendly arrangement. Those of us who have been around from the start, understand the evolution that led to the current positioning of forums, but it is very confusing for newbies.

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While, sadly, I will never be one of those who were around in those halycon early days, I did not find it too hard to understand when I was a newbie.

blairvanhorn Sep 19, 2003 12:19 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AnnaS:
I agree with PremEx regarding that no one is obligated to post here. I myself was a lurker for many months before I ever registered & posted. I have had more chance encounters with FT lurkers than I would've imagined. At least one came up to me in the Admiral's Club when he saw I was on FT chat. Personally, I've derived alot of great information from FT and I tend to only contribute when I feel I have something to say (hence my relatively low post count for my registration date). As for the moderation of the board, I think the moderators are doing a great job on a truly thankless task, IMHO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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CameraGuy Sep 19, 2003 6:17 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
No .... you continually whine back about another BB.

Seems like the scores are even to me?

It is surely just like saying the best solution for a burning building is to go ignite all the adjoining ones. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

That is NOT a great or very bright solution. </font>
So, using your logic, it is OK for your drinking buddy to whine about the moderation, but it is not OK for me to respond that they should look elsewhere.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
1000 times more Flyertalkers belong to and use www.BiddingForTravel.com than the site you keep on whining about hundreds of times here.

If you want to experience possibly THE most moderated BB on the web, go visit there. And guess what? That board saves me $1000s each year, and I and all others know in advance the owner has those rather Draconian rules and accept them entirely. </font>
3500 FT'er use that site?

Also, if they can accept the rules for that forum, why is it so hard for the SAME people to accept the rules for this one?



<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
What either board has to do with FT Moderation is ........ ZERO. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif </font>
When one of the people who is constantly critisizing the moderation is a founder/anonymous moderator on a board that failed miserably at moderation, it has everything to do with FT. In MY opinion, they lost their right to critisize Randy when they left to create "Utopia".



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