Timeout for Dovster, please
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GUWonder:
I think Dovster realizes that one would be hard pressed to find me prejudiced against anyone or any group other than those who hold prejudices against others on the basis of birth and resultant family, cultural, religious, national, etc association.</font>
I think Dovster realizes that one would be hard pressed to find me prejudiced against anyone or any group other than those who hold prejudices against others on the basis of birth and resultant family, cultural, religious, national, etc association.</font>
In that same thread, I specifically cited you as a person who may be anti-Israel but is not anti-Semitic.
Unless you live a double life, changing your personality from GUWonder to ChaseTheMiles and vice-versa, I have no idea to what you are referring. (And, no, I do NOT believe that is the case.)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
... I said that "In December, I told one poster that something she said was straight out of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I still feel that way but would not have been surprised if that letter had been considered "flaming". Apparently, it was not. Had it been banned, I would not have objected."... </font>
... I said that "In December, I told one poster that something she said was straight out of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I still feel that way but would not have been surprised if that letter had been considered "flaming". Apparently, it was not. Had it been banned, I would not have objected."... </font>
By the way, you have obviously admitted to flaming and were just waiting to see if the moderator would do something about it. Remember, we are encouraged to take the high road in TOS, ignoring you is not agreeing with you nor letting you off. Moderators are people just like the rest of us; they don't get to read all the threads, unless you expect them to conduct detail searches as you did.
Debate me anytime, but don't resort to name calling and personal attacks when you run out of logic. It only debases yourself.
(Edited to add: I was travelling extensively in late December, barely had time for internet and OMNI, and did not have time to fully react to Dovster's offensive posts. Next time I will know to report to the moderators immediately.)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
GUWonder, as I said in the other thread, you have me completely confused. ChaseTheMiles is referring to my having flamed her (and, yes, I have admitted to doing that).
In that same thread, I specifically cited you as a person who may be anti-Israel but is not anti-Semitic.
Unless you live a double life, changing your personality from GUWonder to ChaseTheMiles and vice-versa, I have no idea to what you are referring. (And, no, I do NOT believe that is the case.)</font>
GUWonder, as I said in the other thread, you have me completely confused. ChaseTheMiles is referring to my having flamed her (and, yes, I have admitted to doing that).
In that same thread, I specifically cited you as a person who may be anti-Israel but is not anti-Semitic.
Unless you live a double life, changing your personality from GUWonder to ChaseTheMiles and vice-versa, I have no idea to what you are referring. (And, no, I do NOT believe that is the case.)</font>
An FT dating service is not my style, but women with brains and beauty..., who knows? ]I am not anti-Israeli, although I am strongly anti-Likud hardliners (in terms of approach, actions, maybe even ideology). I am not anti-Saudi, although I am anti-Saudi hardliner monarchists and fundamentalists (in terms of approach, actions and definitiely ideology).
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
Actually I am referring not just that, but also other attacks </font>
Actually I am referring not just that, but also other attacks </font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
including searching supposedly all my posts in OMNI, calculating the percentage or number of posts concerning Isareli-Palestinian topics, and based on your judgement, indict me further... the unusual behavior exhibited is akin to stalking. </font>
including searching supposedly all my posts in OMNI, calculating the percentage or number of posts concerning Isareli-Palestinian topics, and based on your judgement, indict me further... the unusual behavior exhibited is akin to stalking. </font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
I shudder to think what you would have liked to access if you had my social securitiy number and birth date. I would recommend people not ever meet you in person or you may take down their names and conduct cyber searches. </font>
I shudder to think what you would have liked to access if you had my social securitiy number and birth date. I would recommend people not ever meet you in person or you may take down their names and conduct cyber searches. </font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
Debate me anytime, but don't resort to name calling and personal attacks when you run out of logic. </font>
Debate me anytime, but don't resort to name calling and personal attacks when you run out of logic. </font>
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There you go again, Dovster. I can't agree with arguing for arguing's sake. I said your bahavior was akin to stalking; whether you are actuallly a stalker in reality life, I don't know yet. If an OMNI moderator conducts a search, I consider it part of their job. Another odd aspect to your behavior is that most people would respect a moderator's decision to delete a post or lock a thread, albeit with a few questions. But you, you have continued to argue and expand the argument in Randy's forum. It's not a total waste of time, since I finally have the chance to tell about my experience from your attacks. On the other hand, enough is enough, I would suggest you accept the post's deletion and move on with your life.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GUWonder:
Unless ChaseTheMiles and I become an item (not likely) I think referring to us as vice-versa is going to be difficult. [Chase: Send me a photo.
An FT dating service is not my style, but women with brains and beauty..., who knows? ]</font>
Unless ChaseTheMiles and I become an item (not likely) I think referring to us as vice-versa is going to be difficult. [Chase: Send me a photo.
An FT dating service is not my style, but women with brains and beauty..., who knows? ]</font>

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ChaseTheMiles, while I have admitted -- long before you got on this thread -- that I flamed you in December, I also said that I did not lie about you.
In other words, I believe that what I said was extremely negative but true.
To go into why I said what I did would involve re-opening the Omni argument, quoting from your posts in it, and giving all the specifics of your statements and my replies. As I have said that I do not wish to post on Omni any more, it would be self-defeating to have an Omni discussion here.
As for my having made other attacks on you, you know that is not true. I can not say that I would not have under similar circumstances, I can only say that those circumstances never arose again.
But you are right about one thing -- I should put the whole CTM-Dovster debate behind me and get on with my life. I suggest you do the same.
In other words, I believe that what I said was extremely negative but true.
To go into why I said what I did would involve re-opening the Omni argument, quoting from your posts in it, and giving all the specifics of your statements and my replies. As I have said that I do not wish to post on Omni any more, it would be self-defeating to have an Omni discussion here.
As for my having made other attacks on you, you know that is not true. I can not say that I would not have under similar circumstances, I can only say that those circumstances never arose again.
But you are right about one thing -- I should put the whole CTM-Dovster debate behind me and get on with my life. I suggest you do the same.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SPN Lifer:
But what is OP-FOP?</font>
But what is OP-FOP?</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by parnel:
I think you protest too much, Sean. And I feel based on recent email communications from you that you are becoming a little too, should I say, undemocratic in your actions and are abusing your power. I think you should stand back, take some time off here and smell the roses.
BTW Omni is not your "turf" as you described it to me in one email ... it belongs To Randy and the members who utilize it. You are there to help the community not to run it.
While I think the note you sent me was possibly meant to be a friendly warning it smelled of authoritarian commands, like the "my turf" comment.
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I think you protest too much, Sean. And I feel based on recent email communications from you that you are becoming a little too, should I say, undemocratic in your actions and are abusing your power. I think you should stand back, take some time off here and smell the roses.
BTW Omni is not your "turf" as you described it to me in one email ... it belongs To Randy and the members who utilize it. You are there to help the community not to run it.
While I think the note you sent me was possibly meant to be a friendly warning it smelled of authoritarian commands, like the "my turf" comment.
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Oz Stamps....I guess that's the "silence is golden" rule now being practiced by Sean.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
What you outline is sadly just the tip of the iceberg I can assure you regarding certain OMNI Mods.</font>
What you outline is sadly just the tip of the iceberg I can assure you regarding certain OMNI Mods.</font>
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No fifth, I'm just rapidly losing interest in this thread. There's nothing new. It seems that after 5 pages it boils down to: the TOS will be enforced, some can't and won't accept that FT is a moderated community, and many enjoy arguing for arguing's sake.
I did ask parnel to ignore another user and asked the other user to ignore parnel. parnel decided to give me the reasons why he didn't want to ignore the other user, and reiterated his dislike of moderation. I told him: "I'm not into taking sides. When you're on my turf (OMNI) I'm just asking you to ignore him, not to bait or be baited. That's not too much to ask, is it?"
Wow, wasn't that exciting?
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[This message has been edited by skofarrell (edited Jan 24, 2004).]
I did ask parnel to ignore another user and asked the other user to ignore parnel. parnel decided to give me the reasons why he didn't want to ignore the other user, and reiterated his dislike of moderation. I told him: "I'm not into taking sides. When you're on my turf (OMNI) I'm just asking you to ignore him, not to bait or be baited. That's not too much to ask, is it?"
Wow, wasn't that exciting?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
No fifth, I'm just rapidly losing interest in this thread. There's nothing new. It seems that after 5 pages it boils down to: the TOS will be enforced, some can't and won't accept that FT is a moderated community, and many enjoy arguing for arguing's sake.
I did ask parnel to ignore another user and asked the other user to ignore parnel. parnel decided to give me the reasons why he didn't want to ignore the other user, and reiterated his dislike of moderation. I told him: "I'm not into taking sides. When you're on my turf (OMNI) I'm just asking you to ignore him, not to bait or be baited. That's not too much to ask, is it?"
Wow, wasn't that exciting?
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No fifth, I'm just rapidly losing interest in this thread. There's nothing new. It seems that after 5 pages it boils down to: the TOS will be enforced, some can't and won't accept that FT is a moderated community, and many enjoy arguing for arguing's sake.
I did ask parnel to ignore another user and asked the other user to ignore parnel. parnel decided to give me the reasons why he didn't want to ignore the other user, and reiterated his dislike of moderation. I told him: "I'm not into taking sides. When you're on my turf (OMNI) I'm just asking you to ignore him, not to bait or be baited. That's not too much to ask, is it?"
Wow, wasn't that exciting?
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Thanks GU.
Now, since I'm taken to task for not responding to parnel's comment, I wonder if ozstamps can back up his latest OMNI allegation with some fact? Just one name of an FTer that's been banned from OMNI for questioning a moderator's decision.
I think I'll give him an hour!
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Now, since I'm taken to task for not responding to parnel's comment, I wonder if ozstamps can back up his latest OMNI allegation with some fact? Just one name of an FTer that's been banned from OMNI for questioning a moderator's decision.
I think I'll give him an hour!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GUWonder:
Sean, you are doing the best job you can in a difficult environment. Even most critics, in their heart, know that.</font>
Sean, you are doing the best job you can in a difficult environment. Even most critics, in their heart, know that.</font>
I think that bugs some people paricularly some moderators.

