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vasantn Jan 22, 2004 6:16 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
GUWonder, remember that I am a conservative. Union leader? Never. On the other hand, being a cartel leader...</font>
Dovster, you seem to be such a great person; I was shocked to find that you were one of them right-wing crazies http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif. Maybe one day when you're in NYC, I can buy you a drink and we can start to wean you away from the dark side. My theory is that all decent and intelligent people who describe themselves as conservative are simply misguided liberals-in-waiting! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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parnel Jan 22, 2004 6:32 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
More baseless allegations from down under. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

Proof please? Just one name of someone that's been banned from OMNI for questioning a moderator's actions?

Anyone? Bueller?


[This message has been edited by skofarrell (edited Jan 22, 2004).]
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I think you protest too much, Sean. And I feel based on recent email communications from you that you are becoming a little too, should I say, undemocratic in your actions and are abusing your power.I think you should stand back, take some time off here and smell the roses.
BTW Omni is not your "turf" as you described it to me in one email...it belongs To Randy and the members who utilize it. You are there to help the community not to run it.
While I think the note you sent me was possibly meant to be a friendly warning it smelled of authoritarian commands, like the "my turf" comment.

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Dovster Jan 22, 2004 6:33 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by vasantn:
My theory is that all decent and intelligent people who describe themselves as conservative are simply misguided liberals-in-waiting! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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I thought that in New York City a liberal was defined as "a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet."



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jfe Jan 22, 2004 6:49 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
You may not question the OMNI Moderators, no matter how well justified.

You will get a time-out from the OMNI Forum if you do. As have others.

Or as I am now discovering, other actions will be put in place by some of them.

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif

You must be joking

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CameraGuy Jan 22, 2004 7:18 am

I't not a joke, just more baseless accusations that will never be backed up.

skofarrel, jfe and ScottC deserve huge kudos for the way that they moderate OMNI.

All of these attacks on them are way off base and I hope that Randy will once and for all deal with the people who constantly attack his moderators.

vasantn Jan 22, 2004 7:37 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
I thought that in New York City a liberal was defined as "a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet."</font>
I've been mugged 5 times in 30+ years; at least once in every borough except for Staten Island. I'd like to try for the cycle but I just don't get to Staten Island that much! Of course, this does not include the numerous times that my car has been stolen (twice) or broken into (too many times to count).

And yes, right after each one of those incidents, I've become a foaming-at-the-mouth right-winger, wanting to bring back the electric chair for muggers and car thieves. The pull of the dark side is seductive. But luckily, I come back to my senses within a few days. A few days of reading WSJ editorials reminds me how nuts you guys really are! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

And since conservatives are not famous for possessing a sense of humour, let me emphasize that these comments are made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. Hey, some of my best friends are conservatives! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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Dovster Jan 22, 2004 7:49 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by vasantn:
And since conservatives are not famous for possessing a sense of humour, let me emphasize that these comments are made with my tongue firmly in my cheek. Hey, some of my best friends are conservatives! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
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Two of the greatest senses of humor belong to conservatives: William F. Buckley, Jr. and Josh Wilde.

Buckley's work can be read in National Review and in various newspapers throughout the world.

Wilde's satires have appeared in magazines, newspapers, and are currently featured regularly on www.got2bet.com and www.gambling.com.

In my impartial opinion, Wilde is the funnier of the two and, in fact, the man borders on pure genius. In addition, he is personally one of the finest people in the world as well. The man is a saint!

Dovster
(aka: Josh Wilde)


Mary2e Jan 22, 2004 8:39 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
... The man is a saint!

Dovster
(aka: Josh Wilde)

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I confirm that I bestowed sainthood upon Dovster on Christmas Eve 2003 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

Mary


ClueByFour Jan 22, 2004 8:41 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
You may not question the OMNI Moderators, no matter how well justified.

You will get a time-out from the OMNI Forum if you do. As have others.

Or as I am now discovering, other actions will be put in place by some of them.
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This thread has now officially become so mindless as to escape description.

I'm not an OMNI mod anymore, but I encourage and even invite you to e-mail that concern to Randy. Please.

Failing that, I'm hoping he addresses it on this thread. I'm not Randy and don't pretend to speak for him, but I'd personally wager as to what his response will be.

As I've said before, if you are that concerned with the problem, take it directly to The Man. What's the delay?

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Don't feed the trolls.

vasantn Jan 22, 2004 9:46 am

I've always enjoyed reading Bill Buckley even while disagreeing with 90% of what he writes. Bill Safire is another conservative whose writings I enjoy.

Until today, I was not familiar with St. Josh. I must remedy that soon! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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Vasant

Dovster Jan 22, 2004 10:10 am

It is true that Mary2E nominated me for sainthood in December.

I was surprised at how enthusiastically this idea was embraced by members of the Left -- until I found out that in order to be declared a saint I would have to be dead.


Cholula Jan 22, 2004 10:47 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
I thought that in New York City a liberal was defined as "a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet."</font>
Dovster....another definition that works is a liberal is a “conservative who has yet to analyze his first paycheck stub“.
Although a few flames have erupted in this thread, I’ve enjoyed reading the posts and have found this a very enlightening thread. Having said that, I regret the reason this thread was started and for the loss of a valuable poster in OMNI. However, as I said on the DL forum recently, the DL forum is proud of Dovster and OMNI’s loss is definitely our gain.


ChaseTheMiles Jan 23, 2004 12:00 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
To date, 26 people posted on this thread.

Not all of them commented on my censored letter. Many of those who did not comment said that they had not seen it but found it hard to believe, based on my other postings, that it was in violation of the TOS.
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This is not a scientific analysis. I only recently realized what's happening in this forum. I don't think I've read this "censored letter", but having been a victim of slanderous and malicious attacks by Dovster, I would tend to believe that he did commit a violation; on the other hand, even if I didn't know anything about dovster, I would still defer to the moderators' decision because I believe they are doing their best to ensure OMNI stays open and viable.

Now, I do believe even the best-behaved posters may post an effending post unintentionally, so the moderators' work is not against any particular posters, but to prevent bad posts from going worse or even igniting unnecessary fireworks.

Dovster Jan 23, 2004 1:09 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
I don't think I've read this "censored letter", but having been a victim of slanderous and malicious attacks by Dovster, I would tend to believe that he did commit a violation; </font>
The original post is part of a longer post which appears on first page of this thread. It is the 13th one there.

In the same (longer) post, I said that "In December, I told one poster that something she said was straight out of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I still feel that way but would not have been surprised if that letter had been considered "flaming". Apparently, it was not. Had it been banned, I would not have objected."

That is the "slanderous and malicious attack" to which ChaseTheMiles is referring.


GUWonder Jan 23, 2004 1:52 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
The original post is part of a longer post which appears on first page of this thread. It is the 13th one there.

In the same (longer) post, I said that "In December, I told one poster that something she said was straight out of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I still feel that way but would not have been surprised if that letter had been considered "flaming". Apparently, it was not. Had it been banned, I would not have objected."

That is the "slanderous and malicious attack" to which ChaseTheMiles is referring.

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It was considered flaming. Yet in the interest of maintaining dialog and refuting that point and malicious label, I choose to address it rather than simply scream bloody murder and have the posts redacted. I figured my address to those false accusations (which are ridiculous if you knew my family composition) would discredit those who lightly throw around such labels (especially upon those who are undeserving of such since it is a false association of the most malicious variety) and attempt to confuse criticism of state with criticism of the subjects of that state and/or people who may share the same religion.

I think Dovster realizes that one would be hard pressed to find me prejudiced against anyone or any group other than those who hold prejudices against others on the basis of birth and resultant family, cultural, religious, national, etc association.


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