xONEx and xGLOBxx Fares analysis spreadsheet
#91
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Hi,
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
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#92
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
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Posts: 11,844
Hi,
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
RTW fares certainly do exist, and it sounds like one would work well for your proposed trip.
As for "where to start," you ought to look at this great new tool, http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ - which gives you a graphical/map interface with which to look for cheap origin points, depending on your chosen fare category (economy, business, first). It sounds like a 4-continent trip would work well for you. Note there are a lot of rules with this ticket, so use the link provided in the fare search tool to see specific rules, and by all means PLEASE go through the FAQ and sticky threads here for guidance on how to use the ticket, get the best deal, set up reasonable routes, etc.
You can purchase Oneworld Explorer RTWs online through the Oneworld website - http://www.oneworld.com/ow/air-trave...inerary-online - so while a travel agent may be useful, they're not strictly necessary.
As for your proposed stops in South America, why not? But note that there are other South American destinations that have great appeal to many RTW users, since the tickets bought "outside" the RTW are rather expensive, but of course included within the base cost of the RTW IF you have sufficient segments (read the FAQ for that - it's important.) Those other destinations include the Galapagos Islands, Easter Island, and other more remote destinations. However, Oneworld also has a very affordable South America "air pass" program which you could buy in addition to the RTW if you wanted more flights than would be allowed within the RTW limits.
Happy planning! Oh, and congratulations!
#93
Original Member, Ambassador: OneWorld Alliance
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Location: Austin, TX, USA
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I'm working on updating the fare data in the spreadsheet thanks to help from sbm12, I'm post here when I'm done (hopefully today).
You might also want to checkout http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ and Comparing Round-the-World (RTW) fares and options.
You might also want to checkout http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ and Comparing Round-the-World (RTW) fares and options.
#94
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD
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Posts: 13,539
Hi,
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
My wife and I are planning our honeymoon and we're based in Hong Kong.
We plan to head out to HKG and head to a city in Europe and then to our main honeymoon in South America and then coming back through NYC or SFO.
Within South America we plan to head to the following cities:
- Lima, Peru
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Santiago, Chile
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
We're thinking of taking OneWorld's RTW.
What I'm wondering is "where to start" in trying to find tickets. I reached out to Cathay Pacific (CX) and they seemed not to have a clue about the RTW. I"m wondering if this still exists or if I have to go through a travel agent.
Also, any suggestions on those South American destinations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks FTers in advance!
Best regards,
KTP
#95
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Posts: 1,015
#96
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,669
Several starting points for OW from sbm12's website have no OW service. I hope that you removed those possibilities to cut down on the number of inquires about starting from the Seychilles, Djibouti, etc...
#97
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Thanks,
Sagy
#98
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: BOS, HKG
Programs: AMEX Plat, UA Premier Exec, CX Gold, Diamond GP, Hilton Gold, RC Gold
Posts: 212
Thank you!
Thank you! Everyone has been very helpful and insightful. I really appreciate it.
There's a promotion now from HKG to SYD on CX which I'm hoping to capitalize on.
I took OG's advice and skipped Europe. So, we're not going for the RTW fare and will skip Europe altogether.
The route is HKG - SYD - Santiago - Lima - Cuzco - Lima - Ecuador - Galapagos - Ecuador - Santiago - Buenos Aires - NYC - LAX - HKG. The total miles is over 34,000 and now I'm wondering which one to do
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
I'm thinking Option 2 will be the best, but just wanted to hear your advice.
I'm looking forward to going through the past forums to see what is good to do in these various destinations. Thanks again for your support. My wife and I really appreciate all the FT'ers.
There's a promotion now from HKG to SYD on CX which I'm hoping to capitalize on.
I took OG's advice and skipped Europe. So, we're not going for the RTW fare and will skip Europe altogether.
The route is HKG - SYD - Santiago - Lima - Cuzco - Lima - Ecuador - Galapagos - Ecuador - Santiago - Buenos Aires - NYC - LAX - HKG. The total miles is over 34,000 and now I'm wondering which one to do
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
I'm thinking Option 2 will be the best, but just wanted to hear your advice.
I'm looking forward to going through the past forums to see what is good to do in these various destinations. Thanks again for your support. My wife and I really appreciate all the FT'ers.
#99
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The route is HKG - SYD - Santiago - Lima - Cuzco - Lima - Ecuador - Galapagos - Ecuador - Santiago - Buenos Aires - NYC - LAX - HKG. The total miles is over 34,000 and now I'm wondering which one to do
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
If using Great Circle Mapper to get mileage, be aware it is not 100% the same as used by airlines.
You could do a SYD-AKL-SCL flight if you want to visit New Zealand - it makes a nice break in the LA SYD-SCL flight (but QF starts SYD-SCL non stop next year).
To maximise mileage, you could do some zig zags in the USA through DFW or ORD - but that depends on the FF program you are crediting to.
#100
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Thank you! Everyone has been very helpful and insightful. I really appreciate it.
There's a promotion now from HKG to SYD on CX which I'm hoping to capitalize on.
I took OG's advice and skipped Europe. So, we're not going for the RTW fare and will skip Europe altogether.
The route is HKG - SYD - Santiago - Lima - Cuzco - Lima - Ecuador - Galapagos - Ecuador - Santiago - Buenos Aires - NYC - LAX - HKG. The total miles is over 34,000 and now I'm wondering which one to do
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
I'm thinking Option 2 will be the best, but just wanted to hear your advice.
I'm looking forward to going through the past forums to see what is good to do in these various destinations. Thanks again for your support. My wife and I really appreciate all the FT'ers.
There's a promotion now from HKG to SYD on CX which I'm hoping to capitalize on.
I took OG's advice and skipped Europe. So, we're not going for the RTW fare and will skip Europe altogether.
The route is HKG - SYD - Santiago - Lima - Cuzco - Lima - Ecuador - Galapagos - Ecuador - Santiago - Buenos Aires - NYC - LAX - HKG. The total miles is over 34,000 and now I'm wondering which one to do
1) Circle Explorer Pass for the entire trip
2) Circle Explorer Pass + S. America Air Pass
I'm thinking Option 2 will be the best, but just wanted to hear your advice.
I'm looking forward to going through the past forums to see what is good to do in these various destinations. Thanks again for your support. My wife and I really appreciate all the FT'ers.
They are significantly different from the OneWorld Explorer rules - in particular the ticket is mileage based and the number of stopovers in each region is more restricted - see rules 4(a) and 8
So might have to take your option 2