Do stops on "direct" service increase the continent count?
Jan 1, 2009 | 6:08 am
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Do stops on "direct" service increase the continent count?
I'm considering QF9, which is marketed as MEL-LHR. In reality, the flight stops in SIN before continuing on to LHR. Assuming I don't otherwise hit Asia, does the stop in SIN "count" as a continent?
I remember reading somewhere that for segment purposes this should only be one segment. Can someone please confirm that as well?
I remember reading somewhere that for segment purposes this should only be one segment. Can someone please confirm that as well?
Jan 1, 2009 | 6:27 am
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The flight will count as one sector only of the 16 allowed in the rules.
The rules also state that this would count as including Asia as a continent though. That is why it is impossible to buy a 3 continent xONEx ticket from Australia.
The complete rules can be found in the rule sheet link in the fare estimate section of this page on the one world website.
The rules also state that this would count as including Asia as a continent though. That is why it is impossible to buy a 3 continent xONEx ticket from Australia.
Originally Posted by OneWorld Explorer rules - section 4 (j)
Travel between Australia and Europe on a single flight number is considered travelling SW Pacific-Asia-Europe through three continents.
Jan 1, 2009 | 6:29 am
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QF7 MEL-LHR direct flight is treated as one segment for couting maximum 16 segments.
It touch Asia continents, so for example,
you need xONE4 for MEL-LHR-LAX-SYD-MEL.
It touch Asia continents, so for example,
you need xONE4 for MEL-LHR-LAX-SYD-MEL.
Jan 1, 2009 | 7:07 am
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In fact OWE rules count a continent even if you do not touch it but merely overfly it. For example ORD-DEL counts as having "touched" Europe even though there is no landing in Europe (and the flight does not go through European air space). This was to prevent having an xONE2 routing, or being able to include Australia on an xONE3.
Jan 1, 2009 | 10:07 am
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The same applies for JAL NRT-JFK-GRU it counts as one flight segment but 3 continents.
The limit of 16 flight segments also applies when you buy additional "regional" segments? For example, if I buy 2 additional segments in South America (ie increase my regional limit from 4 to 6) would my overall limit be automatically increased to 18 or would I need to remain within the overall 16 flight segment limits?
Thanks,
The limit of 16 flight segments also applies when you buy additional "regional" segments? For example, if I buy 2 additional segments in South America (ie increase my regional limit from 4 to 6) would my overall limit be automatically increased to 18 or would I need to remain within the overall 16 flight segment limits?
Thanks,
Jan 1, 2009 | 11:01 am
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The same applies for JAL NRT-JFK-GRU it counts as one flight segment but 3 continents.
The limit of 16 flight segments also applies when you buy additional "regional" segments? For example, if I buy 2 additional segments in South America (ie increase my regional limit from 4 to 6) would my overall limit be automatically increased to 18 or would I need to remain within the overall 16 flight segment limits?
Thanks,
The limit of 16 flight segments also applies when you buy additional "regional" segments? For example, if I buy 2 additional segments in South America (ie increase my regional limit from 4 to 6) would my overall limit be automatically increased to 18 or would I need to remain within the overall 16 flight segment limits?
Thanks,
Jan 1, 2009 | 11:45 am
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Thanks for the clarification.
Another question, is there a limit for flying a specific airport/destination? For example, could I use my segments in a specific region flying the same route more than once: 1) SCL-GRU 2) GRU-SCL 3) SCL-GRU 4) GRU-SCL?
Thanks,
Another question, is there a limit for flying a specific airport/destination? For example, could I use my segments in a specific region flying the same route more than once: 1) SCL-GRU 2) GRU-SCL 3) SCL-GRU 4) GRU-SCL?
Thanks,
Jan 1, 2009 | 11:46 am
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No problem, unless there are explicit route restrictions, e.g. one transcon in N. America, one DFW-ANC-DFW, or if you try to transit your origin point, etc.
Jan 1, 2009 | 4:54 pm
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No problem. Star Alliance has a rule for something like this but on OW you can fly a route as often as your segments allow.
Jan 1, 2009 | 8:36 pm
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Just to be clear, the Oneworld Explorer has no such restriction. However, the Global Explorer (mileage-based like the Star tickets) does have the rule: "The same city pairs/sectors cannot be flown more than once in the same direction.".
Jan 2, 2009 | 3:14 am
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When counting flight segments does one need to take into account connections and / or stop-overs as well? For example, QF LHR-SIN-SYD counts as 1 or 2 flight segments? (note the flight has a stop-over in SIN and not a connection).
Tks,
Jan 2, 2009 | 4:18 am
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If it's ticketed LHR-SYD as one flight on one coupon then it counts as one segment. But if you break the flight in SIN (i.e. either you get a different flight number SIN-SYD, or the same flight number but a day or more later) then it's two coupons (and in the second case that is then your entire allowed visit to Asia.
Essentially the restriction is on 16 ticket coupons in the paper ticket sense.
Essentially the restriction is on 16 ticket coupons in the paper ticket sense.
Jan 2, 2009 | 6:59 am
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Thanks. This is my first OW RTW, my previous one was with SkyTeam hence the questions!
I am now organising my DONE4 itinerary and need to know whether Papeete (PPT) and Eastern Island (IPC) are part of South America or South West Pacific region. Both are shown on LAN's routemap as belonging to its South American network.
Tks,
I am now organising my DONE4 itinerary and need to know whether Papeete (PPT) and Eastern Island (IPC) are part of South America or South West Pacific region. Both are shown on LAN's routemap as belonging to its South American network.
Tks,
Jan 2, 2009 | 7:33 am
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Thanks. This is my first OW RTW, my previous one was with SkyTeam hence the questions!
I am now organising my DONE4 itinerary and need to know whether Papeete (PPT) and Eastern Island (IPC) are part of South America or South West Pacific region. Both are shown on LAN's routemap as belonging to its South American network.
Tks,
I am now organising my DONE4 itinerary and need to know whether Papeete (PPT) and Eastern Island (IPC) are part of South America or South West Pacific region. Both are shown on LAN's routemap as belonging to its South American network.
Tks,
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