DONE5 from AA to BA Stock. Possible?
Oct 24, 2008 | 6:51 am
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DONE5 from AA to BA Stock. Possible?
I bougt and paid for a DONE5 ticket ex CPT with AA. It is an e-ticket. There is just one flight on AA. First flight June 2009...
Just out of curiousity:
Thanks!
Just out of curiousity:
- Is it possible to get this ticket re-issued on BA-stock?
- If so: are there extra costs involved? (e.g. will tax and surcharges be recalculated?)
Thanks!
Oct 24, 2008 | 12:02 pm
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That I can do on AA stock too, no?
Really, I would feel more secure not having any ties to AA (or any other US airline) under the circumstances...
Really, I would feel more secure not having any ties to AA (or any other US airline) under the circumstances...
Oct 24, 2008 | 12:42 pm
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No. BA only allows MFU for tickets on BA ticket stock that are purchased from BA (and certain other delineated exceptions).
Oct 24, 2008 | 3:39 pm
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The stock is set in concrete for the life of the ticket. This is where the money went; changing the stock requires a fund transfer between airlines. Which of course happens as coupons are used, but on a reissue the ticket keeps its original stock. You would have to refund the ticket and issue a new one (not useful for OWE which have no refund value). Of course BA will be quite happy to sell you a new ticket.
Oct 24, 2008 | 4:10 pm
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The stock is set in concrete for the life of the ticket. This is where the money went; changing the stock requires a fund transfer between airlines. Which of course happens as coupons are used, but on a reissue the ticket keeps its original stock. You would have to refund the ticket and issue a new one (not useful for OWE which have no refund value). Of course BA will be quite happy to sell you a new ticket.
Oct 24, 2008 | 4:11 pm
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Ok, pretty confusing... 
Those where the two stories I heard.
Jerry, how does one go about reissuing a RTW ticket?
Those where the two stories I heard.Jerry, how does one go about reissuing a RTW ticket?
Oct 24, 2008 | 5:01 pm
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You go to an OW airline ticket office or GSA of course, although most of us don't try to reissue until we have actually started the journey. You can do a search of the forum and find that people have reissued their tickets at LHR, LAX, NYC, HKG (a favorite place as CX was so efficient - now you have to pay an additional fee if the original tix is not on CX stock), NRT, etc. As for trying to reissue with another carrier prior to starting your journey I have doubts. Most likely you will have to start over by refunding and issuing a new ticket on the other carrier.
Oct 24, 2008 | 5:25 pm
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And re-issuing on BA stock runs the risk of re-pricing by the BA tariff gnomes to include horrendous fuel surcharges throughout the itinerary. That's why people are having AA do the plating in the first place.
If your first flight isn't until June 2009 then it sounds like re-issuing is not the case, it's refund and re-purchasing. Doing that on BA stock will almost certainly lead to significant surcharge imposition. I presume it was a 20-segment ticket?
If your first flight isn't until June 2009 then it sounds like re-issuing is not the case, it's refund and re-purchasing. Doing that on BA stock will almost certainly lead to significant surcharge imposition. I presume it was a 20-segment ticket?
Oct 25, 2008 | 5:14 am
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No, it is a 16 segment e-ticket. I understand the 'stock' issue for paper tickets but I am very much confused by the e-ticket judicial aspects. I have 16 segments, most with BA, QF and CX but bought via AA. I can manage my e-ticket on BA.com.
Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?
Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?
Oct 26, 2008 | 7:06 am
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No, it is a 16 segment e-ticket. I understand the 'stock' issue for paper tickets but I am very much confused by the e-ticket judicial aspects. I have 16 segments, most with BA, QF and CX but bought via AA. I can manage my e-ticket on BA.com.
Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?
Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?
Oct 26, 2008 | 4:10 pm
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The ticket keeps the original stock (by endorsement) even though for paper tickets it is of course on whatever stock the issuing office has (it could even be a non-Oneworld carrier!). For e-tickets the "stock" never changes once the ticket is issued. The only way to change the stock is to refund and issue a new ticket. Normally the stock is not a concern unless you lose the ticket or want to refund it; except for the times when carriers don't allow certain types of upgrades except for their own tickets. But that is a marketing scheme, and there are no loopholes around it any more.
Oct 26, 2008 | 4:14 pm
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In the past most IATA carriers that have gone bust have had their tickets accepted by other IATA carriers. But this is not by contract, but as a "favour". So there is little risk. No refunds for such tickets, except as awarded by the bankruptcy court, however. AA does not seem to have any chance to go bankrupt within the next 24 months (the max ticket validity), so this is a theoretical rather than a practical concern. In any case re-issue would do nothing to change this situation; you must pick the company before you pay.