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henkybaby Oct 24, 2008 6:51 am

DONE5 from AA to BA Stock. Possible?
 
I bougt and paid for a DONE5 ticket ex CPT with AA. It is an e-ticket. There is just one flight on AA. First flight June 2009...

Just out of curiousity:
  • Is it possible to get this ticket re-issued on BA-stock?
  • If so: are there extra costs involved? (e.g. will tax and surcharges be recalculated?)

Thanks!

Dr. HFH Oct 24, 2008 9:26 am


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 10570328)
Is it possible to get this ticket re-issued on BA-stock?

Just out of curiosity, why?

jerry a. laska Oct 24, 2008 10:41 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 10570986)
Just out of curiosity, why?

One possibility may be that he is hoping to MFU his BA flights.

henkybaby Oct 24, 2008 12:02 pm

That I can do on AA stock too, no?

Really, I would feel more secure not having any ties to AA (or any other US airline) under the circumstances...

jerry a. laska Oct 24, 2008 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 10571869)
That I can do on AA stock too, no?

Really, I would feel more secure not having any ties to AA (or any other US airline) under the circumstances...

No. BA only allows MFU for tickets on BA ticket stock that are purchased from BA (and certain other delineated exceptions).

nielsdc Oct 24, 2008 1:31 pm

They will probably not allow it, but a reissue should cost you the reissue fee, probably a service charge, and the recalculation of all surcharges and taxes.

number_6 Oct 24, 2008 3:39 pm

The stock is set in concrete for the life of the ticket. This is where the money went; changing the stock requires a fund transfer between airlines. Which of course happens as coupons are used, but on a reissue the ticket keeps its original stock. You would have to refund the ticket and issue a new one (not useful for OWE which have no refund value). Of course BA will be quite happy to sell you a new ticket.

jerry a. laska Oct 24, 2008 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 10573011)
The stock is set in concrete for the life of the ticket. This is where the money went; changing the stock requires a fund transfer between airlines. Which of course happens as coupons are used, but on a reissue the ticket keeps its original stock. You would have to refund the ticket and issue a new one (not useful for OWE which have no refund value). Of course BA will be quite happy to sell you a new ticket.

I and many others on the board have reissued tickets with other carriers and after the reissue the ticket was on the stock of the carrier doing the reissue.

henkybaby Oct 24, 2008 4:11 pm

Ok, pretty confusing... :) Those where the two stories I heard.

Jerry, how does one go about reissuing a RTW ticket?

jerry a. laska Oct 24, 2008 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 10573163)
Ok, pretty confusing... :) Those where the two stories I heard.

Jerry, how does one go about reissuing a RTW ticket?

You go to an OW airline ticket office or GSA of course, although most of us don't try to reissue until we have actually started the journey. You can do a search of the forum and find that people have reissued their tickets at LHR, LAX, NYC, HKG (a favorite place as CX was so efficient - now you have to pay an additional fee if the original tix is not on CX stock), NRT, etc. As for trying to reissue with another carrier prior to starting your journey I have doubts. Most likely you will have to start over by refunding and issuing a new ticket on the other carrier.

Gardyloo Oct 24, 2008 5:25 pm

And re-issuing on BA stock runs the risk of re-pricing by the BA tariff gnomes to include horrendous fuel surcharges throughout the itinerary. That's why people are having AA do the plating in the first place.

If your first flight isn't until June 2009 then it sounds like re-issuing is not the case, it's refund and re-purchasing. Doing that on BA stock will almost certainly lead to significant surcharge imposition. I presume it was a 20-segment ticket?

henkybaby Oct 25, 2008 5:14 am

No, it is a 16 segment e-ticket. I understand the 'stock' issue for paper tickets but I am very much confused by the e-ticket judicial aspects. I have 16 segments, most with BA, QF and CX but bought via AA. I can manage my e-ticket on BA.com.

Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?

mrow Oct 26, 2008 7:06 am


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 10574992)
No, it is a 16 segment e-ticket. I understand the 'stock' issue for paper tickets but I am very much confused by the e-ticket judicial aspects. I have 16 segments, most with BA, QF and CX but bought via AA. I can manage my e-ticket on BA.com.

Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?

Not sure whether your ticket would still be valid, but if you paid with a Credit Card, wouldn't the Credit Card company sort out any mess ensuing from AA going belly up should that happen?

number_6 Oct 26, 2008 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 10573161)
I and many others on the board have reissued tickets with other carriers and after the reissue the ticket was on the stock of the carrier doing the reissue.

The ticket keeps the original stock (by endorsement) even though for paper tickets it is of course on whatever stock the issuing office has (it could even be a non-Oneworld carrier!). For e-tickets the "stock" never changes once the ticket is issued. The only way to change the stock is to refund and issue a new ticket. Normally the stock is not a concern unless you lose the ticket or want to refund it; except for the times when carriers don't allow certain types of upgrades except for their own tickets. But that is a marketing scheme, and there are no loopholes around it any more.

number_6 Oct 26, 2008 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 10574992)
...Of course the question is: if AA would go bust, would the ticket still be valid and if not can I prevent that by reissuing on BA or CX stock?

In the past most IATA carriers that have gone bust have had their tickets accepted by other IATA carriers. But this is not by contract, but as a "favour". So there is little risk. No refunds for such tickets, except as awarded by the bankruptcy court, however. AA does not seem to have any chance to go bankrupt within the next 24 months (the max ticket validity), so this is a theoretical rather than a practical concern. In any case re-issue would do nothing to change this situation; you must pick the company before you pay.


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