Single flight number for two flights?
#1
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Single flight number for two flights?
Hi
I was wondering if there is a listing of all single flights (1 flight number treated as 1 segment to OW) that are in fact 2 flights? For example, QF SYD-LHR goes via SIN yet it is a single flight number (#31). Ditto with SYD-JFK via LAX... The benefit of these flights is obviously that you don't lose out on a second segment in the OW rules, hence you can optimise your routing on a xONEx.
Do other such services exist in the OW family?
Cheers
I was wondering if there is a listing of all single flights (1 flight number treated as 1 segment to OW) that are in fact 2 flights? For example, QF SYD-LHR goes via SIN yet it is a single flight number (#31). Ditto with SYD-JFK via LAX... The benefit of these flights is obviously that you don't lose out on a second segment in the OW rules, hence you can optimise your routing on a xONEx.
Do other such services exist in the OW family?
Cheers
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There are incredibly many such flights; if you want a list of AA's flights, download their PDF timetable and find all the flights which list "1" in the "number of stops" column. You may be able to do something similar with other carriers' timetables.
As another example, go to the "From Hong Kong" section of the CX timetable; find all the "1 stop" flights: in this case, you can get a one-stop flight from HKG to CNS, CMB, DXB, FUK, KHI, MEL, BOM, NGO, JFK, KIX, PEN, RUH, ICN, SIN, NRT, or YYZ on CX. (DXB has a 2-stop flight as well.)
The big drawback to these flights is that you only get miles for the equivalent nonstop routing: e.g., if I fly SJC-DFW-AUS on separate flights, I get around 1938 miles because the DFW-AUS leg counts for 500 miles. But if it's a single flight number, it counts the same as a nonstop SJC-AUS, or only 1476 miles. Thus, I'd much rather book two different flights if the price is the same, unless there's a concern about delays causing a missed connection. (Missed connections are quite rare with a single flight number!)
As another example, go to the "From Hong Kong" section of the CX timetable; find all the "1 stop" flights: in this case, you can get a one-stop flight from HKG to CNS, CMB, DXB, FUK, KHI, MEL, BOM, NGO, JFK, KIX, PEN, RUH, ICN, SIN, NRT, or YYZ on CX. (DXB has a 2-stop flight as well.)
The big drawback to these flights is that you only get miles for the equivalent nonstop routing: e.g., if I fly SJC-DFW-AUS on separate flights, I get around 1938 miles because the DFW-AUS leg counts for 500 miles. But if it's a single flight number, it counts the same as a nonstop SJC-AUS, or only 1476 miles. Thus, I'd much rather book two different flights if the price is the same, unless there's a concern about delays causing a missed connection. (Missed connections are quite rare with a single flight number!)
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Thanks Mcnett
I'm not worried about the miles, more so the status credits with QF. I assume they count as two separate flights, each with their own status credits?
GM
I'm not worried about the miles, more so the status credits with QF. I assume they count as two separate flights, each with their own status credits?
GM
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OK, so they determine the status credits based on the miles as if going direct from origin to destination without stopover/transit. Still, it does save one segment from the 16 max and that's a pretty big advantage.

