What's the Bottom Line for an AONEx?
Apr 24, 2008 | 2:16 pm
#46
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I would prefer BA/CX/QF metal over AA. Even with the codeshares, I don't really want to lose BA Tier Points on the Transatlantic segments. Which other OW partners ticket AONEx from CPT?
Apr 24, 2008 | 2:48 pm
#47
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One possible work-around would be CPT/JNB - LHR/MAD - HEL - JFK, using the AA codeshare on AY for HEL-JFK. IIRC the prohibition on no BA TPs on AA transatlantic flights (all of 'em, not just UK - USA) does not extend to AY or IB.
Edited - oops, scratch AA codeshare idea. BA would nix the TPs. So you could ask AA CPT if it has to be AA coded TATL or if it just can't be BA.
Apr 24, 2008 | 3:21 pm
#49
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CX, QF or BA from either CPT or JNB, but you'll pay more. I haven't heard of anyone succeeding in using IB in South Africa.
One possible work-around would be CPT/JNB - LHR/MAD - HEL - JFK, using the AA codeshare on AY for HEL-JFK. IIRC the prohibition on no BA TPs on AA transatlantic flights (all of 'em, not just UK - USA) does not extend to AY or IB.
One possible work-around would be CPT/JNB - LHR/MAD - HEL - JFK, using the AA codeshare on AY for HEL-JFK. IIRC the prohibition on no BA TPs on AA transatlantic flights (all of 'em, not just UK - USA) does not extend to AY or IB.
AA agents' fee ex-CPT is $30, BA ex-MRU is $300.
Starting from CPT what (VERY ROUGHLY) do you think the saving on AA on an AONE4 would be over BA?
Apr 24, 2008 | 3:25 pm
#50
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Off to the airport presently, heading for CPT.
Apr 25, 2008 | 12:55 pm
#51
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But there shouldn't be any problem to switch to a BA flight once the ticket has been issued? If I book LHR-LAX on AA, I should be able to switch to the BA flight without a reissue.
Apr 25, 2008 | 5:31 pm
#52
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True in the past 20 years; but starting in 2007 it has become increasingly difficult (even with non-OWE tickets). The whole endorsement process (which is needed without a reissue) has become more convoluted (or rather has moved from the back office which the airline took care of days after you flew, to the front office which you must take care of at the airport before you board). How much help you get seems to depend on how busy the airline is that day (so it can become a reissue).
Apr 25, 2008 | 6:13 pm
#53
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True in the past 20 years; but starting in 2007 it has become increasingly difficult (even with non-OWE tickets). The whole endorsement process (which is needed without a reissue) has become more convoluted (or rather has moved from the back office which the airline took care of days after you flew, to the front office which you must take care of at the airport before you board). How much help you get seems to depend on how busy the airline is that day (so it can become a reissue).
Are you saying this rule is no longer valid as of last year?Code:
15N . DATE/TIME AND ONEWORLD CARRIER CHANGES ARE 16N . PERMITTED WITHOUT REISSUE PROVIDED ORIGIN, 17N . DESTINATION, CONNECTING POINTS AND INVENTORY 18N . REMAIN THE SAME.
Apr 25, 2008 | 6:55 pm
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Apr 26, 2008 | 3:12 am
#56
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I believe the official OW rule is that any OW airline should issue a ONEX ticket, irrespective of whether it has involvement at all. I would suspect that most mainstream OW airline offices adhere to this. It seems that offenders to this rule are typically GSAs or offices or little broom cupboards not in the immediate gaze of their parent's HQ. I would be interested to hear what this oneworld4u character has to say about such shenanignans.
BTW, welcome back! I'm hoping the move from house arrest to what seems to be the wilderness represents progress.
Apr 27, 2008 | 2:16 am
#57
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Experience on any other OW airline?
I understand from your information as well as a few others that AA seems to be pretty reasonable and BA very expensive. Has anybody recent experiences booking xONEx through any of the other OW carriers? As I'll have quite a few IB, QF and AY segments, I'm in particular considering these, but also MA and RJ are possibilities.
Apr 28, 2008 | 3:19 pm
#58
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When using the the Apollo, Sabre and Wspan Availability tools in KVS are all the A class seats showing as available normally easily bookable on AONEx tickets?
Also, is there a tool I can use to check the charges on each segment?
Also, is there a tool I can use to check the charges on each segment?
Apr 28, 2008 | 5:19 pm
#59
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True in the past 20 years; but starting in 2007 it has become increasingly difficult (even with non-OWE tickets). The whole endorsement process (which is needed without a reissue) has become more convoluted (or rather has moved from the back office which the airline took care of days after you flew, to the front office which you must take care of at the airport before you board). How much help you get seems to depend on how busy the airline is that day (so it can become a reissue).
Apr 28, 2008 | 7:39 pm
#60
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Of course it is supposed to work that way. The rules specify this. But, some check-in agents at some airports and airlines will simply not let you board. Then you can fight it out later, missing your flight. Hard to say how often this happens -- it used to be never, but it has happened to me. Maybe when a flight was oversold and this was an easy way to avoid IDB compensation. Something to keep in mind if you are on a tight schedule and simply cannot miss a specific flight. In practice tickets are not as endorsable as they should be by the rules (and past practice).