DONE4 or AONE4 for EXP Requalification
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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DONE4 or AONE4 for EXP Requalification
After reading many of the insipiring posts about how to achieve EXP status the quickest, I thought I should take the jump and start traveling on xONExs. So far all of my traveling has been (I feel ashamed to admit), point to point or round-trip and therefore not mileage maximizing or CPM minimizing.
So, I am seeking to requalify for EXP early next year and would like to try to do it on an AONE4. I have seen plenty of posts about how this is easy to do on an xONE4, but I am having a heck of a time figuring out what itinerary works. I had first thought about the following:
MIA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SEA-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-DPS-NRT-DEL-ORD
However, I realized two errors in my logic: 1) I cannot have more than two stopovers in my country of origin and I also cannot have more than two stopovers at the end either, and 2) I cannot fly on AS for the ANC portion on a xONEx.
So, I have revised the itinerary above slightly, but still cannot find a way to make it work so that I get 66667 points or more. I can address the first problem by starting in LHR rather than in NA, although cost-wise I would ticket it in the US. I know that there are savings to be had ex-NRT or ex-somewhere else (any other suggestions), but think that the positioning costs might be high.
Another issue I have is that the OW itinerary tool says you can only have one flight to PER; how is that possible, since you can't go anywhere else from PER. I have seen conflicting information on this, as I have also read on the Mileage Monkey tool that you are limited to one PER-MEL/BNE/CNS/SYD, which could be doable.
The best I can come up with (and they are both a little short) are:
MAD-IST-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD-LAX-ORD-MAD
or
MIA-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD
As I said, both are a little short. This isn't a problem, as other travel will allow me to qualify anyway, but it bothers me that I can't piece this itinerary together when I have read in so many posts that getting more than 66667 points on an DONE4 or AONE4 is "easy".
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
So, I am seeking to requalify for EXP early next year and would like to try to do it on an AONE4. I have seen plenty of posts about how this is easy to do on an xONE4, but I am having a heck of a time figuring out what itinerary works. I had first thought about the following:
MIA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SEA-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-DPS-NRT-DEL-ORD
However, I realized two errors in my logic: 1) I cannot have more than two stopovers in my country of origin and I also cannot have more than two stopovers at the end either, and 2) I cannot fly on AS for the ANC portion on a xONEx.
So, I have revised the itinerary above slightly, but still cannot find a way to make it work so that I get 66667 points or more. I can address the first problem by starting in LHR rather than in NA, although cost-wise I would ticket it in the US. I know that there are savings to be had ex-NRT or ex-somewhere else (any other suggestions), but think that the positioning costs might be high.
Another issue I have is that the OW itinerary tool says you can only have one flight to PER; how is that possible, since you can't go anywhere else from PER. I have seen conflicting information on this, as I have also read on the Mileage Monkey tool that you are limited to one PER-MEL/BNE/CNS/SYD, which could be doable.
The best I can come up with (and they are both a little short) are:
MAD-IST-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD-LAX-ORD-MAD
or
MIA-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD
As I said, both are a little short. This isn't a problem, as other travel will allow me to qualify anyway, but it bothers me that I can't piece this itinerary together when I have read in so many posts that getting more than 66667 points on an DONE4 or AONE4 is "easy".
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
#2
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Madrid, Spain & Santiago, Chile
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A couple of things: I'd say reaching EXP on just an AONE4 is doable but not "easy", and ADL-AKL is no longer an option.
Edited to add: to get extra miles consider LAX-SJO and LAX-SJU, provided, of course, you don't start your AONE in NA.
Edited to add: to get extra miles consider LAX-SJO and LAX-SJU, provided, of course, you don't start your AONE in NA.
Last edited by Viajero; Nov 27, 2007 at 6:24 pm
#3
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Qpoints are the same whether you travel in A or D.
DONE4 ex US is USD8,300, AONE4 is USD10,400
DONE4 ex Japan is JPY780,400, AONE4 is JPY1,126,100 (~USD7,200 & USD10,390)
DONE4 ex US is USD8,300, AONE4 is USD10,400
DONE4 ex Japan is JPY780,400, AONE4 is JPY1,126,100 (~USD7,200 & USD10,390)
#5
Join Date: May 2001
Programs: AA PLT 2MM, LH SEN *, HH Gold
Posts: 3,075
Here's an example with a bit more than 69,000 miles:
lhr-dxb-lhr-lax-sju-dfw-anc-dfw-mia-scl-ccs-scl-gig-scl-dfw-nrt-sin-nrt-sin-nrt-lhr
It shouldn't be too difficult to optimise it a bit further, including finding a cheaper starting point than LHR.
lhr-dxb-lhr-lax-sju-dfw-anc-dfw-mia-scl-ccs-scl-gig-scl-dfw-nrt-sin-nrt-sin-nrt-lhr
It shouldn't be too difficult to optimise it a bit further, including finding a cheaper starting point than LHR.
#7
Join Date: May 2001
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Wasn't Easter Island (IPC) reclassified as South Pacific some time ago, or was that just for AAward purposes? If so, this itinerary doesn't work.
#10
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Substituting PTY or even YVR for ANC in the above itinerary still makes it exceed the magical 66,667 miles and should work year-round...
#13
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Thanks for the replies. As I understand so far, the options are:
1) Start in Bangladesh - not likely to happen; I would really rather go ex-NA, ex-Europe or ex-Tokyo
2) As was pointed out already, LHR-DXB-LHR is not possible starting in Europe
3) As was also pointed out, ANC is not possible on OW, but YVR and PTY are alternatives
4) The South America alternatives are interesting, but I have flown those routes so many times that I would rather go on other routes; also, I am trying to flying non-AA metal (I think that F and J on QF, JL and CX are better)
5) SIN might be a better base for mileage purposes in Asia than HKG (although I would miss out on the CX cabins)
6) It seems that PER cannot be in any OW itinerary because of the restriction on the one PER leg, unless I purchase more segments in Australia/NZ
Taking all this input, I came up with:
SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-BNE-PER-SIN-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD
However, this only gives 64445 miles.
1) Start in Bangladesh - not likely to happen; I would really rather go ex-NA, ex-Europe or ex-Tokyo
2) As was pointed out already, LHR-DXB-LHR is not possible starting in Europe
3) As was also pointed out, ANC is not possible on OW, but YVR and PTY are alternatives
4) The South America alternatives are interesting, but I have flown those routes so many times that I would rather go on other routes; also, I am trying to flying non-AA metal (I think that F and J on QF, JL and CX are better)
5) SIN might be a better base for mileage purposes in Asia than HKG (although I would miss out on the CX cabins)
6) It seems that PER cannot be in any OW itinerary because of the restriction on the one PER leg, unless I purchase more segments in Australia/NZ
Taking all this input, I came up with:
SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-BNE-PER-SIN-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD
However, this only gives 64445 miles.
#14
Join Date: Jun 2004
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#15
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Madrid, Spain & Santiago, Chile
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The PER restriction does not mean you cannot include PER, all it means is that it cannot be included in a way that it can earn lots of miles. You can fly to PER from the East Coast of Oz and return via ADL, for example, or via CBR. It just means that what used to be possible with 2 segments now takes 3, but it is indeed possible.
Last edited by Viajero; Nov 27, 2007 at 8:20 pm


