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mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 5:34 pm

DONE4 or AONE4 for EXP Requalification
 
After reading many of the insipiring posts about how to achieve EXP status the quickest, I thought I should take the jump and start traveling on xONExs. So far all of my traveling has been (I feel ashamed to admit), point to point or round-trip and therefore not mileage maximizing or CPM minimizing.

So, I am seeking to requalify for EXP early next year and would like to try to do it on an AONE4. I have seen plenty of posts about how this is easy to do on an xONE4, but I am having a heck of a time figuring out what itinerary works. I had first thought about the following:

MIA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SEA-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-DPS-NRT-DEL-ORD

However, I realized two errors in my logic: 1) I cannot have more than two stopovers in my country of origin and I also cannot have more than two stopovers at the end either, and 2) I cannot fly on AS for the ANC portion on a xONEx.

So, I have revised the itinerary above slightly, but still cannot find a way to make it work so that I get 66667 points or more. I can address the first problem by starting in LHR rather than in NA, although cost-wise I would ticket it in the US. I know that there are savings to be had ex-NRT or ex-somewhere else (any other suggestions), but think that the positioning costs might be high.

Another issue I have is that the OW itinerary tool says you can only have one flight to PER; how is that possible, since you can't go anywhere else from PER. I have seen conflicting information on this, as I have also read on the Mileage Monkey tool that you are limited to one PER-MEL/BNE/CNS/SYD, which could be doable.

The best I can come up with (and they are both a little short) are:

MAD-IST-LHR-DXB-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD-LAX-ORD-MAD

or

MIA-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-CNS-PER-ADL-AKL-HKG-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-ORD

As I said, both are a little short. This isn't a problem, as other travel will allow me to qualify anyway, but it bothers me that I can't piece this itinerary together when I have read in so many posts that getting more than 66667 points on an DONE4 or AONE4 is "easy".

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 6:12 pm

A couple of things: I'd say reaching EXP on just an AONE4 is doable but not "easy", and ADL-AKL is no longer an option.

Edited to add: to get extra miles consider LAX-SJO and LAX-SJU, provided, of course, you don't start your AONE in NA.

serfty Nov 27, 2007 6:49 pm

Qpoints are the same whether you travel in A or D.

DONE4 ex US is USD8,300, AONE4 is USD10,400

DONE4 ex Japan is JPY780,400, AONE4 is JPY1,126,100 (~USD7,200 & USD10,390)

headinclouds Nov 27, 2007 6:57 pm

I think this DONE4 itin just makes EXP, starting in Bangladesh ($5900 US ++)

DAC-HKG-LAX-SCL-IPC-SCL-UIO-EZE-ORD-SJU-DFW-JFK-BGI-JFK-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-SIN-NRT-SIN

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 7:02 pm

Here's an example with a bit more than 69,000 miles:

lhr-dxb-lhr-lax-sju-dfw-anc-dfw-mia-scl-ccs-scl-gig-scl-dfw-nrt-sin-nrt-sin-nrt-lhr

It shouldn't be too difficult to optimise it a bit further, including finding a cheaper starting point than LHR.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking (Post 8799645)
...dfw-anc-dfw

Not possible because OP wants to qualify early next year.

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 8799626)
I think this DONE4 itin just makes EXP, starting in Bangladesh ($5900 US ++)

DAC-HKG-LAX-SCL-IPC-SCL-UIO-EZE-ORD-SJU-DFW-JFK-BGI-JFK-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-SIN-NRT-SIN

Wasn't Easter Island (IPC) reclassified as South Pacific some time ago, or was that just for AAward purposes? If so, this itinerary doesn't work.

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8799657)
Not possible because OP wants to qualify early next year.

Right...

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 7:07 pm

IPC is South America for OWE purposes.

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking (Post 8799645)
Here's an example with a bit more than 69,000 miles:

lhr-dxb-lhr-lax-sju-dfw-anc-dfw-mia-scl-ccs-scl-gig-scl-dfw-nrt-sin-nrt-sin-nrt-lhr

It shouldn't be too difficult to optimise it a bit further, including finding a cheaper starting point than LHR.

Substituting PTY or even YVR for ANC in the above itinerary still makes it exceed the magical 66,667 miles and should work year-round...

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8799677)
IPC is South America for OWE purposes.

Thanks.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking (Post 8799645)
...lhr-dxb-lhr-...

Not possible for an ex-LHR OWE.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 7:57 pm

Thanks for the replies. As I understand so far, the options are:

1) Start in Bangladesh - not likely to happen; I would really rather go ex-NA, ex-Europe or ex-Tokyo
2) As was pointed out already, LHR-DXB-LHR is not possible starting in Europe
3) As was also pointed out, ANC is not possible on OW, but YVR and PTY are alternatives
4) The South America alternatives are interesting, but I have flown those routes so many times that I would rather go on other routes; also, I am trying to flying non-AA metal (I think that F and J on QF, JL and CX are better)
5) SIN might be a better base for mileage purposes in Asia than HKG (although I would miss out on the CX cabins)
6) It seems that PER cannot be in any OW itinerary because of the restriction on the one PER leg, unless I purchase more segments in Australia/NZ


Taking all this input, I came up with:

SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-BNE-PER-SIN-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

However, this only gives 64445 miles.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8799939)
2) As was pointed out already, LHR-DXB-LHR is not possible starting in Europe...

It is not possible starting in the UK, but it is possible starting anywhere else in Europe.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8799939)
...6) It seems that PER cannot be in any OW itinerary because of the restriction on the one PER leg, unless I purchase more segments in Australia/NZ.

The PER restriction does not mean you cannot include PER, all it means is that it cannot be included in a way that it can earn lots of miles. You can fly to PER from the East Coast of Oz and return via ADL, for example, or via CBR. It just means that what used to be possible with 2 segments now takes 3, but it is indeed possible.


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