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serfty Nov 27, 2007 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah
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5) SIN might be a better base for mileage purposes in Asia than HKG (although I would miss out on the CX cabins).

Perhaps NRT is better for distance optimization with Asia.

Originally Posted by mmcmah
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6) It seems that PER cannot be in any OW itinerary because of the restriction on the one PER leg, unless I purchase more segments in Australia/NZ.

PER is quite easy to use without buying additional segments. FWIW, I am not sure buying additional segment would get around the one only PER-CNS/BNE/SYD/MEL restriction anyway.

Try this for over 67000 miles:

ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-MEL-CNS-PER-NRT-DPS-NRT-DEL-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 8800077)
Perhaps NRT is better for distance optimization with Asia.
PER is quite easy to use without buying additional segments. FWIW, I am not sure buying additional segment would get around the one only PER-CNS/BNE/SYD/MEL restriction anyway.

Try this for over 67000 miles:

ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-MEL-CNS-PER-NRT-DPS-NRT-DEL-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

I will try it shortly. I just finished another itinerary which yields 66335 miles:
SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-SIN-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

Hagbard Viking Nov 27, 2007 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8799718)
Not possible for an ex-LHR OWE.

Which is easily fixed by picking some other point on the itinerary as the starting point, for example:

gig-scl-dfw-nrt-sin-nrt-sin-nrt-lhr-dxb-lhr-lax-sju-dfw-yvr-dfw-mia-scl-ccs-scl-gig

headinclouds Nov 27, 2007 8:40 pm

Here is my take for 67,289 miles.

ord-amm-mad-lhr-mct-lhr-mel-akl-bne-per-adl-hkg-dps-nrt-del-hkg-jfk-lax-sjo-lax-ord

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8800131)
...SYD-PER-DRW-SYD

This one is a bit controversial, but the general consensus here is that it breaks the one only Oz transcon rule.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8800131)
I will try it shortly. I just finished another itinerary which yields 66335 miles:
SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-SIN-NRT-DPS-NRT-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

serfty thanks for the DEL suggestion - I had forgotten about it. I made a slight change to my prior itinerary and came up with 68122 miles:

SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-NRT-DPS-NRT-DEL-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8800147)
This one is a bit controversial, but the general consensus here is that it breaks the one only Oz transcon rule.

Do you know if anyone has been able to get it ticketed? It seems to be the itinerary that I would be looking to ticket... I will call the RTW desk tomorrow and ask them, Thanks!

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 8800143)
Here is my take for 67,289 miles.

ord-amm-mad-lhr-mct-lhr-mel-akl-bne-per-adl-hkg-dps-nrt-del-hkg-jfk-lax-sjo-lax-ord

Thanks - this is a really interesting itinerary too.

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8800163)
Do you know if anyone has been able to get it ticketed? It seems to be the itinerary that I would be looking to ticket... I will call the RTW desk tomorrow and ask them, Thanks!

There are one or two reports here that did NOT manage to get it ticketed. None that did, IIRC.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 8800143)
Here is my take for 67,289 miles.

ord-amm-mad-lhr-mct-lhr-mel-akl-bne-per-adl-hkg-dps-nrt-del-hkg-jfk-lax-sjo-lax-ord

Actually, it seems that this will not work, as there seems to be a rule that you are only allowed one international departure/arrival from the country of origin, so even though LAX-SJO is in the same contrinent for OWE purposes, it's still an international flight.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8800192)
There are one or two reports here that did NOT manage to get it ticketed. None that did, IIRC.

If it does turn out to be invalid, then you could do the following for 67113:

SJU-ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-SYD-PER-ASP-MEL-NRT-DPS-NRT-DEL-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

pjoalfa Nov 27, 2007 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8799939)
However, this only gives 64445 miles.

Well, from DEN to SJU and back from ORD you can easily make up the difference.

Originally Posted by serfty (Post 8800077)

Try this for over 67000 miles:

ORD-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-MEL-CNS-PER-NRT-DPS-NRT-DEL-HKG-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD

This might be better suited to a DONE4 than a AONE4 as it only has F class on 5 of 20 segments.


How about
Mex-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-SYD-PER-NRT-DEL-NRT-DPS-NRT-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD-MIA-MEX

for 66673 - dang! almost on the nose!

The main problem with mine too is that it's mostly business class except the very long hauls, which is not much consolation from PER-NRT and the like. I believe there's more opportunity to max out the F class you are paying for on a AONE5 but that's another can of worms.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by pjoalfa (Post 8800260)
Well, from DEN to SJU and back from ORD you can easily make up the difference.


This might be better suited to a DONE4 than a AONE4 as it only has F class on 5 of 20 segments.


How about
Mex-LHR-MCT-LHR-IST-LHR-MEL-AKL-SYD-PER-NRT-DEL-NRT-DPS-NRT-JFK-SJU-LAX-ORD-MIA-MEX

for 66673 - dang! almost on the nose!

The main problem with mine too is that it's mostly business class except the very long hauls, which is not much consolation from PER-NRT and the like. I believe there's more opportunity to max out the F class you are paying for on a AONE5 but that's another can of worms.


Thanks a good point about the availability of F on the flights. There's a really interesting question - can you get 66667 miles on an AON4, where there are enough segments on premium F cabins (3 classes of service)?

Viajero Nov 27, 2007 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by mmcmah (Post 8800283)
Thanks a good point about the availability of F on the flights. There's a really interesting question - can you get 66667 miles on an AON4, where there are enough segments on premium F cabins (3 classes of service)?

You are after QPoints here, not miles, so DONE/AONE are the same.

mmcmah Nov 27, 2007 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 8800299)
You are after QPoints here, not miles, so DONE/AONE are the same.

I agree, but the F cabins are really a lot better than the J cabins, if you can get them. Considering the few F cabins that are on the itinerary, you are right of course, but it would be nice to be able to make the most (points- and cabin-wise) of an AONE.


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