Please check this itinerary:
Oct 22, 2007 | 6:10 pm
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You have 9 spare segments of which 2 can be in Asia, 4 in USA, 4 in SWP, 2 in Europe and 3 in Africa.
Starting in HKG severely cuts your options in Asia.
If you can skip either BKK or SIN, then you can have HKG-nrt-cgk-nrt-bkk/sin-SYD at the beginning to add ~9,500 base miles.
If using SIN you can go -SIN-per-cns-mel-akl-SYD-LAX- to add ~3,750 miles.
Do -SYD-JFK-LAX-DFW-BOS-DFW-PHX-LHR- for another ~8,300 miles.
Without optimizing Africa or Europe a 20 segment itin (skipping BKK) is:
HKG-nrt-cgk-nrt-sin-per-syd-akl-SYD-JFK-lax-dfw-sea-dfw-phx-LHR-MOW-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG for nearly 60000 base miles.
Starting in HKG severely cuts your options in Asia.
If you can skip either BKK or SIN, then you can have HKG-nrt-cgk-nrt-bkk/sin-SYD at the beginning to add ~9,500 base miles.
If using SIN you can go -SIN-per-cns-mel-akl-SYD-LAX- to add ~3,750 miles.
Do -SYD-JFK-LAX-DFW-BOS-DFW-PHX-LHR- for another ~8,300 miles.
Without optimizing Africa or Europe a 20 segment itin (skipping BKK) is:
HKG-nrt-cgk-nrt-sin-per-syd-akl-SYD-JFK-lax-dfw-sea-dfw-phx-LHR-MOW-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG for nearly 60000 base miles.
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Oct 23, 2007 | 8:13 am
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Along the same lines as serfty, "without optimizing Africa or Europe a 20 segment itin," but skipping SIN instead of BKK, and for 1065 more base miles:
HKG-DEL-NRT-BKK-SYD-PER-BNE-AKL-SYD-JFK-etc...
HKG-DEL-NRT-BKK-SYD-PER-BNE-AKL-SYD-JFK-etc...
Oct 23, 2007 | 5:09 pm
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Oct 23, 2007 | 5:32 pm
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Yes, however I used SEA as it's a First Class flight on a DONEx against DFW/YVR being J class only.
With First there are extra Miles/ SC's/TPs for QF/BA/CX members (not such an issue for AA members).
With First there are extra Miles/ SC's/TPs for QF/BA/CX members (not such an issue for AA members).
Oct 24, 2007 | 1:14 am
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Just curious --
Assuming that the entire itinerary you posted is F throughout, how many SCs will I earn with a bronze Qantas card? I tried using the online calculator but could not make it work.
Oct 24, 2007 | 1:26 am
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The point is moot since about half those segments don't operate with a First Class cabin.
Plug the itinerary into Milage Monkey and it indicates if they all scored F you would earn 3120 SC's.
However, J only may be available on all those shaded boxes under 'first' in the SC earning table; thus reducing the total to 2,720.
Plug the itinerary into Milage Monkey and it indicates if they all scored F you would earn 3120 SC's.
However, J only may be available on all those shaded boxes under 'first' in the SC earning table; thus reducing the total to 2,720.
Oct 24, 2007 | 1:44 am
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If you're after miles and not SCs, per se, the following change would net you 4,844 miles more base-miles:
Instead of:
...JFK-lax-dfw-sea-dfw-phx-LHR... (13,168 miles for this portion of the itinerary)
Fly this instead:
...JFK-LAX-SJO-LAX-SAL-LAX-LHR...(18,012 miles instead, plus a few visits to sunny Central America)
Only caveat is that I believe LAX-SJO is seasonal.
Instead of:
...JFK-lax-dfw-sea-dfw-phx-LHR... (13,168 miles for this portion of the itinerary)
Fly this instead:
...JFK-LAX-SJO-LAX-SAL-LAX-LHR...(18,012 miles instead, plus a few visits to sunny Central America)
Only caveat is that I believe LAX-SJO is seasonal.
Oct 24, 2007 | 3:42 am
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You might correct this by doing SYD-PER-ADL-AKL, although I don't remember if QF still operates ADL-AKL and if they do, they'll use a 738 which is not as good as the 747 or the 763 in C (which they use on BNE-AKL).
This is the exact formulation in the OWE's terms & conditions:
Within Australia only one flight is permitted between Perth and Brisbane, Cairns, Melbourne or Sydney or
between Darwin or Brisbane and Melbourne or Sydney
between Darwin or Brisbane and Melbourne or Sydney
Oct 24, 2007 | 4:38 am
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Plug the itinerary into Milage Monkey and it indicates if they all scored F you would earn 3120 SC's.
However, J only may be available on all those shaded boxes under 'first' in the SC earning table; thus reducing the total to 2,720.
However, J only may be available on all those shaded boxes under 'first' in the SC earning table; thus reducing the total to 2,720.
Oct 24, 2007 | 5:15 am
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Sorry for that... the list of Australian trans-cons has changed quite a lot over the years, and I didn't catch that BNE-PER was on the list.
Oct 24, 2007 | 6:16 am
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Milage Monkey indicates SYD-JFK may not have First class cabin; I know for a fact that QF107 (indeed AA7365) indeed does.
There's your 120 SC's.
Note that the routing I provided is not optimised and it should be possible to squeeze a few more Miles/SC's/Qpoints out of it.
There's your 120 SC's.
Note that the routing I provided is not optimised and it should be possible to squeeze a few more Miles/SC's/Qpoints out of it.
Oct 24, 2007 | 4:38 pm
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Milage Monkey indicates SYD-JFK may not have First class cabin; I know for a fact that QF107 (indeed AA7365) indeed does.
There's your 120 SC's.
Note that the routing I provided is not optimised and it should be possible to squeeze a few more Miles/SC's/Qpoints out of it.
There's your 120 SC's.
Note that the routing I provided is not optimised and it should be possible to squeeze a few more Miles/SC's/Qpoints out of it.
New routing:
HKG-NRT-DEL-NRT-BKK-SIN-SYD-AKL-SYD-JFK-LAX-DFW-SEA-DFW-PHX-LHR-MOW-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG
I replaced Jakarta with Delhi because there is new J seating on the latter.
BKK has been added because F is available NRT-BKK as well as BKK-SIN on CX.
Also, it turns out that there IS F available NRT-SIN (JL719)!
Oct 24, 2007 | 6:06 pm
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New routing:
HKG-NRT-DEL-NRT-BKK-SIN-SYD-AKL-SYD-JFK-LAX-DFW-SEA-DFW-PHX-LHR-MOW-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG
I replaced Jakarta with Delhi because there is new J seating on the latter.
BKK has been added because F is available NRT-BKK as well as BKK-SIN on CX.
Also, it turns out that there IS F available NRT-SIN (JL719)!
What time of year would this be? You could substitute DFW-ANC-DFW for DFW-SEA-DFW if it's between May and October. Around 2800 more miles and it's F because both are in the US.
And of course LON-MOW is nothing compared to DXB or MCT etc.