DONE4 dilemma...
Apr 10, 2007 | 2:12 am
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DONE4 dilemma...
Hi all, the time has come for me to ask the "help with DONE4" question: 
I am building a DONE4 around a trip to SEA in June, coming from BNE.
So far, looking at BNE-SYD-SFO-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-LHR-SIN-HKG-PER-MEL-CNS-BNE
Problems raised by travel agent so far:
1. Can't travel SFO-SEA (AS codeshare) which reading the T&C seems true. So is it possible to travel from LAX or SFO to SEA on a DONE4, or do I need to add a sector?
2. Says I can't take the Australian Domestic sectors.
Pretty sure that I can, according to the T&C:
"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to commence or return from your international travel."
I would plan to interrupt the DONE4 and return SIN-BNE then return to SIN and resume within the 12months, which should be ok, as I read the rules?
I am building a DONE4 around a trip to SEA in June, coming from BNE.
So far, looking at BNE-SYD-SFO-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-LHR-SIN-HKG-PER-MEL-CNS-BNE
Problems raised by travel agent so far:
1. Can't travel SFO-SEA (AS codeshare) which reading the T&C seems true. So is it possible to travel from LAX or SFO to SEA on a DONE4, or do I need to add a sector?
2. Says I can't take the Australian Domestic sectors.
Pretty sure that I can, according to the T&C:
"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to commence or return from your international travel."
I would plan to interrupt the DONE4 and return SIN-BNE then return to SIN and resume within the 12months, which should be ok, as I read the rules?
Apr 10, 2007 | 2:38 am
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She is correct in that you cannot use the AS codeshare. You would have to either buy a separate ticket or do something such as LAX-ORD-SEA
There is nothing wrong that I can see with your domestic sectors. Obviously you are only permitted 2 stopovers
I would query the benefit of using an agent; personally I would just use the AA ATW desk to book it . If you do use the agent, do make sure that the agent issues it through AA rather than QF to reduce the fuel fines
Dave
There is nothing wrong that I can see with your domestic sectors. Obviously you are only permitted 2 stopovers
I would query the benefit of using an agent; personally I would just use the AA ATW desk to book it . If you do use the agent, do make sure that the agent issues it through AA rather than QF to reduce the fuel fines
Dave
Apr 10, 2007 | 2:51 am
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Thanks Dave!
I was interested to get the agent to quote, but will be comparing, never fear!
Looks like adding the -SEA- sector separately might be the best bet.
I was interested to get the agent to quote, but will be comparing, never fear!
Looks like adding the -SEA- sector separately might be the best bet.
Apr 10, 2007 | 3:05 am
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Or fly SFO-YVR on QF and go overland to SEA... I guess you realise that the itinerary is a long way from being mileage-maximised for those cities? (You'd do SYD-JFK... SFO-LHR for example for maximum miles, and you have 6 segments unused.)
Apr 10, 2007 | 3:16 am
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Unfortunately, have only 3 weeks, AND a conference to actually attend! Planning to resume the SIN-HKG-oz sectors later will help, but unfortunately don't have time for Euro side trips this time! Should be a good help on the way to QF Plat though...
Apr 10, 2007 | 4:29 am
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Assuming the ANC is a side trip, was some mention in another thread of a single flight number MIA-ANC this yr (presumably via DFW) - good for a few extra A class miles if true.
Apr 10, 2007 | 8:23 am
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Apr 11, 2007 | 2:42 am
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Continuing with the ANC leg, can I buy/issue an open-date ticket now with DFW-ANC-DFW included?
Apr 11, 2007 | 6:08 am
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Guys,
What do you think of:
BNE-SYD-JFK-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SFO-LHR-SIN-HKG-MEL-PER-BNE
SYD-JFK on QF107 is one segment although stops at LAX
SFO-LHR is on the timetable as a non-stop with BA
is this possible with the US trans-con restrictions, or have I crossed the country too many times?
What do you think of:
BNE-SYD-JFK-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SFO-LHR-SIN-HKG-MEL-PER-BNE
SYD-JFK on QF107 is one segment although stops at LAX
SFO-LHR is on the timetable as a non-stop with BA
is this possible with the US trans-con restrictions, or have I crossed the country too many times?
Apr 11, 2007 | 6:15 am
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Nope - that's fine on the points you mentioned, but you're breaking the Australian trans-con rule:
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84N . 9. WITHIN AUSTRALIA -. 85N . ONLY 1 NONSTOP OR SINGLE PLANE FLIGHT PERMITTED 86N . BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING 87N . CITIES: 88N . . 89N . * BNE/CNS/SYD/MEL AND PER /SEE EXCEPTIONS 90N . BELOW/ 91N . * MEL/SYD AND DRW 92N . * MEL/SYD AND BME 93N . --------------------------------------------- 94N . ----- 95N . ----- 96N . 97N . EXCEPTION 98N . EXCEPTION 1: 99N . NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD/MEL-PER FOR 100N . PASSENGERS 101N . ORIGINATING IN PER WHEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH 102N . TRAVEL 103N . TO/FROM JNB/BOM/SHA/PEK. 104N . EXCEPTION 2: 105N . NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD/MEL-PER FOR 106N . PASSENGERS 107N . ORIGINATING NEW ZEALAND WHEN IN CONJUNCTION 108N . WITH 109N . TRAVEL TO/FROM JNB.
Apr 11, 2007 | 6:20 am
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I see! Forgot MEL is still on the East coast
Might have to look at CX from HKG to PER again, though I was trying to leave a couple of segments for local travel later......
Might have to look at CX from HKG to PER again, though I was trying to leave a couple of segments for local travel later......