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mattm199 Apr 10, 2007 2:12 am

DONE4 dilemma...
 
Hi all, the time has come for me to ask the "help with DONE4" question: :)
I am building a DONE4 around a trip to SEA in June, coming from BNE.

So far, looking at BNE-SYD-SFO-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-LHR-SIN-HKG-PER-MEL-CNS-BNE

Problems raised by travel agent so far:
1. Can't travel SFO-SEA (AS codeshare) which reading the T&C seems true. So is it possible to travel from LAX or SFO to SEA on a DONE4, or do I need to add a sector?

2. Says I can't take the Australian Domestic sectors.
Pretty sure that I can, according to the T&C:
"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to commence or return from your international travel."

I would plan to interrupt the DONE4 and return SIN-BNE then return to SIN and resume within the 12months, which should be ok, as I read the rules?

Dave Noble Apr 10, 2007 2:38 am

She is correct in that you cannot use the AS codeshare. You would have to either buy a separate ticket or do something such as LAX-ORD-SEA

There is nothing wrong that I can see with your domestic sectors. Obviously you are only permitted 2 stopovers

I would query the benefit of using an agent; personally I would just use the AA ATW desk to book it . If you do use the agent, do make sure that the agent issues it through AA rather than QF to reduce the fuel fines

Dave

mattm199 Apr 10, 2007 2:51 am

Thanks Dave!
I was interested to get the agent to quote, but will be comparing, never fear!
Looks like adding the -SEA- sector separately might be the best bet.

christep Apr 10, 2007 3:05 am

Or fly SFO-YVR on QF and go overland to SEA... I guess you realise that the itinerary is a long way from being mileage-maximised for those cities? (You'd do SYD-JFK... SFO-LHR for example for maximum miles, and you have 6 segments unused.)

mattm199 Apr 10, 2007 3:16 am

Unfortunately, have only 3 weeks, AND a conference to actually attend! Planning to resume the SIN-HKG-oz sectors later will help, but unfortunately don't have time for Euro side trips this time! Should be a good help on the way to QF Plat though... :)

moa999 Apr 10, 2007 4:29 am

Assuming the ANC is a side trip, was some mention in another thread of a single flight number MIA-ANC this yr (presumably via DFW) - good for a few extra A class miles if true.

JohnAx Apr 10, 2007 8:23 am


Originally Posted by moa999 (Post 7556669)
Assuming the ANC is a side trip, was some mention in another thread of a single flight number MIA-ANC this yr (presumably via DFW) - good for a few extra A class miles if true.

Wow, at 4004 miles, the longest NA segment I know of.

Viajero Apr 10, 2007 8:38 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 7557436)
Wow, at 4004 miles, the longest NA segment I know of.

I remember SJU-ANC.

When is this MIA-ANC supposed to start? any link, or reference?

MiamiBeach Apr 10, 2007 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 7557519)
When is this MIA-ANC supposed to start? any link, or reference?

From the beginning of the ANC season (May 1) to June 13, AA278 goes MIA-DFW-ANC.

Viajero Apr 10, 2007 9:29 am


Originally Posted by MiamiBeach (Post 7557635)
From the beginning of the ANC season (May 1) to June 13, AA278 goes MIA-DFW-ANC.

Thanks. I see it on the OW timetable now.

Leumas Apr 11, 2007 1:02 am

Continuing with the ANC leg, can I buy/issue an open-date ticket now with DFW-ANC-DFW included?

I'm planning to buy one for 2008.

nielsdc Apr 11, 2007 2:42 am


Continuing with the ANC leg, can I buy/issue an open-date ticket now with DFW-ANC-DFW included?
Yes, you can buy a ticket with DFW-ANC-DFW open dated. However, you are not protected if they are not running it when you want or if they won't be running it next year.

mattm199 Apr 11, 2007 6:08 am

Guys,
What do you think of:
BNE-SYD-JFK-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-SFO-LHR-SIN-HKG-MEL-PER-BNE

SYD-JFK on QF107 is one segment although stops at LAX
SFO-LHR is on the timetable as a non-stop with BA

is this possible with the US trans-con restrictions, or have I crossed the country too many times?

christep Apr 11, 2007 6:15 am

Nope - that's fine on the points you mentioned, but you're breaking the Australian trans-con rule:
Code:

84N . 9. WITHIN AUSTRALIA -.                                 
 85N .    ONLY 1 NONSTOP OR SINGLE PLANE FLIGHT PERMITTED     
 86N .    BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING                               
 87N .    CITIES:                                             
 88N .    .                                                   
 89N .      * BNE/CNS/SYD/MEL AND PER /SEE EXCEPTIONS         
 90N .    BELOW/                                               
 91N .      * MEL/SYD AND DRW                                 
 92N .      * MEL/SYD AND BME                               
 93N .        --------------------------------------------- 
 94N .    -----                                               
 95N .        -----                                           
 96N .                                                         
 97N .        EXCEPTION                                       
 98N .        EXCEPTION 1:                                   
 99N .        NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD/MEL-PER FOR         
100N .    PASSENGERS                                           
101N .        ORIGINATING IN PER WHEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH     
102N .        TRAVEL                                         
103N .        TO/FROM JNB/BOM/SHA/PEK.                       
104N .        EXCEPTION 2:                                   
105N .        NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD/MEL-PER FOR         
106N .    PASSENGERS                                           
107N .        ORIGINATING NEW ZEALAND WHEN IN CONJUNCTION     
108N .    WITH                                                 
109N .        TRAVEL TO/FROM JNB.


mattm199 Apr 11, 2007 6:20 am

I see! Forgot MEL is still on the East coast :)
Might have to look at CX from HKG to PER again, though I was trying to leave a couple of segments for local travel later......


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