Yes, it's true, not every one has Excel, or if they do, may not be able to run macros on it. Also they may not be able to set up something like "open office.org" failing anything else.

USD7500.00 as of 3/31/07

And some people would rather just have someone else look it up for them as opposed to just reading about how the spreadsheet works and isn't just based on ex-CAI prices.

Which it was really nice of Serfty to do, don't we think?

I now feel bad for not having answered OP's question directly myself, especially since I'm often guilty of asking questions that I could with some amount of effort, answer myself by digging through the archives, Wikipedia, by calling the airline, or other sources.

Sure it was nice of serfty to do. When I direct people to the rules I provide the answer as well as a link as opposed to saying I am just too lazy to look them up. When I tell people about their question having been asked and answered before, I provide a link to what search reveals, the actual threads that answer their question, as opposed to jsut telling them to do a search.

All in all giving someone a cite to where they can find the answer will often in the long run be more helpful both to that person and to the next person that happens to read that thread and wants to know how much it is start from Brazil. My own feeling was that this person had access to excel, opened the fare tool and then wasn't going to bothered to use the tool. Similarly a person on the AA forum quite awhile back wanted some info from EF, I provided it along with a link to EF and mentioned how they might want to join. The person replied they were a member of EF but just couldn't be bothered with logging on and figured they could get someone else to do it for them - not that there was some reason they couldn't log in - slow dial up connection or anything - just wanted someone else to do it for them.

I could be wrong but that's what I thought too.

Before answering I looked at the persons posting history and they do not have a record of asking such questions. Indeed, if there was not much other than why's, where's and how's then I would not have answered. Having typed that, I wasn't actually going to answer but my flight was delayed 30 mins so I took the opportunity given that not all can employ spreadsheets.

It was very nice of serfty, and I do appreciate it.

Your assumptions about me are incorrect. My security will not allow external macros and was trying to get an answer quickly. When it was not easily available I bowed out politely. I'm quite willing to do the work required to figure things out. I do agree with your general approach though - most of us don't have time to hand hold anyone, and I wasn't expecting to be hand held.

For which I thank you very much. And you would have found I do not have a record of asking similar questions. I'm also certainly motivated to figure out how to use the mega Oneworld macro-laden workbook. Clearly someone put a lot of time and effort into it, and I give them props.

It's not especially macro-laden, and FWIW my copy of Excel allows me to disable macros on workbooks. I get that warning everytime I open WBT's file.

IIRC the macros have to do with updating currency exchange rates, nothing more.

Yep, and even that is optional: all one has to do is delete the offending cell.

I figured it out. Sorry to thread drag - so back to the original thread question.

It looks as though we've taught a man - or woman - to fish.

I appreciate the helpfulness from very seasoned, highly knowledgeable members to newcomers as well as long time members on this forum. Thank God, we differ in that way from some other forums on FT. Let's keep it that way.

And now I return you to the initial question.

SanDiego1K
OneWorld Moderator

That wasn't my impression, for what it's worth (admittedly not much). The spreadsheet is terrifically useful for all sorts of comparisons, and I think we all appreciate the work that goes into updating it, but it can be daunting the first time one looks at it, especially if one is trying to know what the fare is for a 'normal' OW product (that is, starting and ending in one's own country).

Ok, so not transcontinental... but equally not worth starting a new thread for...

Perhaps an attractive alternative once your JFK-YVR or vice versa has been used! JL has a YVR-MEX flight, both daytime flights so you can enjoy the service. It looks as though its only a 2-class service so not so good for the AONErs out there, great news for those of us who slum it with their DONE's.

I wonder if there are any other similar flights to this with JL??

It's interesting to start thinking about the new possibilities with the new members, and it's nice to have another way out of YVR besides DFW on AA and the occasional SFO on QF.

Onward from there I see AA flies MEX-DFW and MEX-ORD, both setups for a run to ANC for mileage or to explore Alaska, though, but not MEX-LAX or MEX-JFK.