Route Check DONE4
Nov 1, 2006 | 9:10 am
#1
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Route Check DONE4
Can someone please validate this routing on a DONE4? I am particularly concerned about going ASIA-SWP-EUROPE-NA-ASIA. Thanks in advance.
BOM CX
X BKK CX
X SIN CX
X SYD BA
MEL QF
SYD QF
PER QF
X SYD BA
LHR BA
AMM BA
LHR BA
JFK BA
HKG CX
BOM CX
BOM CX
X BKK CX
X SIN CX
X SYD BA
MEL QF
SYD QF
PER QF
X SYD BA
LHR BA
AMM BA
LHR BA
JFK BA
HKG CX
BOM CX
Nov 1, 2006 | 9:29 am
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Only 1 transcon allowed in Australia, so SYD-PER-SYD is not allowed. You can do SYD-PER-CBR instead, or SYD-PER-ADL-SYD at the cost of another sector. Otherwise it looks fine.
Nov 1, 2006 | 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by number_6
Only 1 transcon allowed in Australia, so SYD-PER-SYD is not allowed. You can do SYD-PER-CBR instead, or SYD-PER-ADL-SYD at the cost of another sector. Otherwise it looks fine.
Nov 1, 2006 | 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Would need to drop one of the other inter-Australia flights since already has 4.
You can do SYD-PER-CBR instead, or SYD-PER-ADL-SYD at the cost of another sector.
Nov 2, 2006 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by milksheikh
would:
BOM CX
X HKG CX
MEL
or even:
BOM CX
X HKG CX
X AKL QF
MEL
be more comfortable journeys? (BOM-HKG is via BKK of course) The former would also free up an SWP sector for SYD-PER-ADL-SYD.
BOM CX
X HKG CX
MEL
or even:
BOM CX
X HKG CX
X AKL QF
MEL
be more comfortable journeys? (BOM-HKG is via BKK of course) The former would also free up an SWP sector for SYD-PER-ADL-SYD.
Technically, yes, it is fewer flights to use BOM/HKG/MEL. However, I am trying to use as many BA flights as possible because there is a promotion on right now for a 50,000 miles bonus for each 2 one-way flights in ClubWorld or First flown before 18 December 2006.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=613784
Nov 3, 2006 | 7:40 am
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Cathay says routing is not valid
Cathay in the US is telling me that I cannot do Asia-SWP-(Asia)-Europe as this is backtracking. I am very surprised but cannot convince them otherwise. They say that from SWP, I must continue across the Pacific to North America or South America and then across the Atlantic to Europe! 
Nov 3, 2006 | 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by satish_ny
Cathay in the US is telling me that I cannot do Asia-SWP-(Asia)-Europe as this is backtracking. I am very surprised but cannot convince them otherwise. They say that from SWP, I must continue across the Pacific to North America or South America and then across the Atlantic to Europe!
Nov 4, 2006 | 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by satish_ny
Cathay in the US is telling me that I cannot do Asia-SWP-(Asia)-Europe as this is backtracking. I am very surprised but cannot convince them otherwise. They say that from SWP, I must continue across the Pacific to North America or South America and then across the Atlantic to Europe!
Just insist and ask them to put it to their rate desk. The problem you've got is some front line agent who thinks s/he knows the rules and clearly doesn't. Insist that she consults the internal experts.
Nov 4, 2006 | 4:25 am
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Thanks! Where are the TCs explained?
Originally Posted by christep
Rubbish of course. I did a DONE3 with exactly that routing last year (simplifying slightly: TPE-xHKG-SYD-xHKG-LHR-BWI-JFK-HKG-TPE). Backktracking is only prohibited between TC zones (plus the specific exception of Hawaii). Asia and SWP are both within TC3.
Just insist and ask them to put it to their rate desk. The problem you've got is some front line agent who thinks s/he knows the rules and clearly doesn't. Insist that she consults the internal experts.
Just insist and ask them to put it to their rate desk. The problem you've got is some front line agent who thinks s/he knows the rules and clearly doesn't. Insist that she consults the internal experts.
Nov 4, 2006 | 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by satish_ny
Thanks all for your input. Do you have a link for where the TC zones are explained? I cannot find in on the OneWorld website. Thanks again.
TC2 = Europe/Middle East & Africa
TC3 = Asia & South West Pacific
Nov 4, 2006 | 7:08 am
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Thanks again! Do you have a link documenting TCs
Originally Posted by Viajero
TC1 = North & South America
TC2 = Europe/Middle East & Africa
TC3 = Asia & South West Pacific
TC2 = Europe/Middle East & Africa
TC3 = Asia & South West Pacific
Nov 4, 2006 | 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by satish_ny
Thanks again! Do do have a link that documents these TCs or Travel Conferences? Does anyone know to get this information in Galileo?
Nov 4, 2006 | 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by Viajero
Google is your friend: http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passenger/irms/area.htm
TC1 Mexico sub-area
TC1 Caribbean sub-area
TC1 Longhaul sub-area
TC1 Within South America sub-area
Does not show USA or Canada as a part of the TC1 description. Is that supposed be be Longhaul sub-area? I guess one can try to read between the lines and figure it all out. I went to the IATA site and spend a long time seraching but could not find anything clear-cut which shows TC1, TC2, TC3!