DragonAir in OW?
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^ That is fantastic news. A world class short haul carrier, opening up loads more destinations on OW metal. They had better expand the PVG lounge though, it is going to get mobbed.
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While it is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Cathay Pacific, Dragonair has retained its own brand and identity, market positioning and separate "KA" flight code.
...but the article continues by stating....
As a oneworld affiliate, Dragonair will offer the alliance's full range of services and benefits. This means its frequent flyers - who will all be integrated into Cathay Pacific's Marco Polo Club loyalty programme from 1 January 2007 - will be able to earn and redeem mileage awards on all other oneworld carriers.
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It could have been a mistake, but AA once me miles on a BCN-LIS IB codeshare operated by TP.
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Service standards (required to be met when joining OW) are different for affiliates (lower). They aren't required to be e-ticket capable, for example. So I suppose it does make a difference, but not one that matters (given all the e-ticket problems that BA and AY have, I'm sure KA will be just as good, affiliate or not).
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What motivated my question about Dragonair joining as an affiliate of Cathay Pacific versus joining in its own right is the unresolved question of whether using an affiliate of a oneworld member plus the oneworld member itself satisfies the "two oneworld airlines" requirement of American Airlines for a oneworld award using AA miles. So, yeah, depending on the correct answer to this question, it could make a difference.
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Originally Posted by Austinrunner
Is Dragonair joining oneworld as an affiliate of Cathay Pacific or as a member in its own right?
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What motivated my question about Dragonair joining as an affiliate of Cathay Pacific versus joining in its own right is the unresolved question of whether using an affiliate of a oneworld member plus the oneworld member itself satisfies the "two oneworld airlines" requirement of American Airlines for a oneworld award using AA miles. So, yeah, depending on the correct answer to this question, it could make a difference.
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What motivated my question about Dragonair joining as an affiliate of Cathay Pacific versus joining in its own right is the unresolved question of whether using an affiliate of a oneworld member plus the oneworld member itself satisfies the "two oneworld airlines" requirement of American Airlines for a oneworld award using AA miles. So, yeah, depending on the correct answer to this question, it could make a difference.
Understand now.
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In my reading of the link there is no ambiguity - KA is joining as an affiliate. Retaining it's own brand, code etc has no bearing on this - other affiliates do the same.
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Are you sure enough about this answer that you wouldn't mind being quoted in post #1 of the stickey? If you are, I'll add the information.
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Once on a codeshare (IB tkt, AY metal) and once on a genuine AY tkt, AY metal flt, AY check-in tried to require a paper tkt as they saw the tkt as a paper one in their system. Caused a delay of perhaps a minute in HEL but in MAD the delay was closer to ten minutes. They sorted it out, though.

