RTW Fare Update
 

The new oneworld desktop timetable contains a RTW function complete with all fares. I've updated my RTW fare spreadsheet with the data culled from this file. As this is coming from oneworld, I would assume these fares are correct. The fares for Slovenia look too good to be true though... I feel a weekend in Ljubljana coming up!

Exchange rates have also been updated.

AONEx fares in USD
 

DONEx in USD
 

LONEx in USD
 

Is LJU not another of those "fares are low because no OW airline operates from there" cities?

Are you missing a zero for LONEx - Latvia?

Oh, that's a depressingly good point. There might be a window of opportunity when Malev joins, as they operate LJU-BUD. That would still constrain the options for a RTW as you'd probably want to get to LHR or another major port to connect to long-haul flights.

It was a fun thought while it lasted.

Thanks for catching that... turned out there was a 1 missing in the LVL price. Fixed now.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the prices listed above are amounts prior to Nov. 2005. Prices went up at the beginning of November or there about. An example of current fares from North America are an AONE4 at $10,400, DONE4 at $8300, and LONE4 at $4100.

Note to mention as well that there are no OW flights to Djibouti since the BA/Regional Air fiasco early this year. Somehow, I don't put much faith in what's on the OW web site. If they can't have correct information about one of their main products, can you trust anything else on the site.

Yeah, the oneWORLD data file is dated 21st July 2005; there have been seveal known increases since then.

However, at least there are updated prices for some of the more obscure origins.

Aha. That'll be why the DONE3 from Sri Lanka was suddenly much the same as from Warsaw. Still reasonably cheap but not the bargain it was before. Rats. Pushed me onto the ex-BKK EK/UA rtw which was not ideal

If that's the case, can you point us to a more reliable source for the latest base fares? It seems that there are no more 100% certain sources available, other than contacting one of the airlines in the planned country of origin...?

I am not aware of any current rescource available that does not require gross expenditure. (Like becoming one own TA.) :(

As of yesterday, the xONEx rates ex Columbo are:For USD, just take the last two 00's off.

Hello FTers,

ah.. ah.... I don't like being ignorant and I hope I speak for many others.... and I want to understand.....

Exactly what do this chart do? What do the columns mean and the all the numbers?

Thank you for answering. I really do want to understand.

David

Read the sticky threads, David, especially the one regarding fares. Different prices for variations on the product, point of sale, etc.

Hi David. The sticky will surely help, but the tables in this post are light on labels.

The three tables posted as seperate replies to this same thread list the prices, by country, for the First Class (AONEx), Business Class (DONEx) and Economy Class (LONEx) OneWorld RTW Explorer products. The unlabelled columns are for when "x" in the above equals 3, 4, 5 or 6 - i.e. 3 continents, 4 continents, etc.

As you can see, price varies a lot by where you purchase (and start) your RTW trip, and some countries can be relatively cheap in one class, while expensive in others (e.g. the UK, where the LONEx is cheap, but the premium class products are very expensive).

Hi,

Is the price from Mauritius still 6150 USD for the AONE4 ?

Does BA122 Mauritius-LHR have First Class ?

Best regards,
Sebastian

Can't comment on the price, but the flight is operated by a 744 (so it has F).

Hello Jerry,

Thank you very much for giving me the quick explanation. Now it makes sense.

Thank you again.

David

I'd rather believe AA's fare info on their CRS... there is no Slovenia or Syria for that matter... so the fare does not really exist.

Update: Yes there is a fare from Syria. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...21&postcount=7

So the upshot of the foregoing is that WearyBizTrvlr's spreadsheet is inaccurate in some respects? If so, is there any prospect of it being updated, or where else can we find RTW fare comparisons?

Unfortunately, yes. The info in the spreadsheet is just a consolidation of the data that I get from FlyerTalk and other sources. I do not have access to the airlines' CRS, so I am entirely dependent on info here or the info that people send me; in some cases, people with access to the CRS have sent me datadumps, but this is incidental. Since Qantas password protected their site, it's gotten harder finding xONEx info.

In other words, the spreadsheet info is done on a best-effort basis, but is likely to be outdated or incorrect in some instances. So anyone with more accurate or up-to-date info, please email or PM me.

Parenthetically, I'll be releasing a minor update later today.

I am still thankful for all your effort, Mr. WearyBizTrvlr!

We all owe WBT similar thanks.

While I know on the board we have talked about Syria originations and haven't been able to do develop much information about originations from Syria, why do you believe that there is no oneworld fare available from there? BMED does fly from Damascus (and Aleppo) to LHR.

Oh, and my thanks to WBT also.

Thanks for the kind words. :)

I've just posted a minor update, with new fare levels for a number of *A origins, as well as an update of fx rates.

Perhaps bad news ex-CAI
 

The Qantas Industry site which used to have the xONEx fares is now password protected, but some pages are still publicly accessible . Clicking around I found this:
(Emphasis added.)

Something tells me that it will not be a fare reduction.

And not unexpected. :(

Noting for the Aussies that Pakistation has moved up with Sri Lanka at the cheaper end of the DONE fares A$6800 DONE4 and A$7800 DONE5

Cathay flies into Karachi from Bangkok.
Appears that Malaysian airlines has some pretty cheap deals ex-Syd through KL to Karachi.

Anyone thought of this as a different option to Colombo ticketing??

Visa required to PAKISTAN.

I do not need to believe. I can see it on AA's CRS system. AA's Oneworld fare lists are the most up to date amongst all Oneworld carriers. There is definitely no fare for the 2 places mentioned above.

BA also flies to TIP. And it doesn't mean that once BA flies from TIP that a Oneworld fare has to exist from Libya either.

Well if you intend to visit the US on that xONEx ex-Karachi, expect more than the usual harassment from US customs/immigration. I'll stick with Colombo, thanks...

Er, I have never been asked by US Immigration where I bought the ticket that I used to enter the country. What makes you think that they would know?

It's not where you bought the ticket, it's the fact that you went to Karachi at all. There will be a passport/visa stamp.

Not to be paranoid, but the U.S. intelligence people, under pressure for their past inattention, have certainly put in place a significant data-mining process that - guessing - requires airlines to bring certain kinds of ticket purchases to their attention. From comments in the media, this is likely to include case purchases of one-way tickets, and in some view or another, an RTW might seem like a one-way ticket. For whatever reason, our very middle-of-the-road caucasian family was SSSS'ed regularly for a while after originating an OWE ex-CAI. Maybe no connection.

I was SSSS'd quite a few times both on ex-CAI tickets and on ex-TPE. I don't think it's where it was bought that matters but that it is seen essentially as a one way ticket.

Of course what I realised after a while was that if I had my AA Plat number in at the time of check-in then I never ever got SSSS'd. All I had to remember was to change back to my CX number (if that was what I actually wanted) while in the lounge.

My DONE4s ex BKK have brought a string of SSSSs. Got'a love the LOTFAP.

Nonsense, had Pakistan stamps in my passport last time I went back to the US and had no major issues with immigration or TSA. Got SSSS once (out of a half-dozen domestic segments), but that was when I bought a one way at the airport on the same day. I agree that it doesn't seem to matter where you bought the ticket (or where you have been) as much as how you bought the ticket and what kind of ticket it is.