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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 8:36 pm
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RTW itinerary using DEL-ORD

I just booked following AONE5 itinerary for winter 2006:

DEL-ORD-LAX-SJO-LAX-SJU-ORD-MIA-SCL-CCS-(surface)-BOG-SCL-IPC-SCL-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-SYD-PER-MEL-(surface)-SYD-BOM

Initially, it did take some time with AA RTW desk to figure out implications of DEL-ORD flight.

Any thoughts how I can maximize AA miles with this itinerary??

Also, I really feel awful I do not have a single CX flight!!!
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 8:58 pm
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LAX-SCL is 1400 miles longer than MIA-SCL and has better A service. Let's hope CCS is operating on the dates of your trip (it is a long sector though). IPC is a great destination but it was J only the last time I looked.

What are the implications of a DEL-ORD flight? How is it any different than a HKG-LAX flight? Or were they wanting to count that as an Atlantic ocean crossing? Now that would be interesting (eliminate Europe in one fell swoop, I suppose you could still reach Africa via SYD-JNB-HKG).
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 9:19 pm
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Thanks. I could pick up about 2000 more miles with ORD-LAX-SCL compared with ORD-MIA-SCL.

The agent at the RTW desk was quite confused about DEL-ORD, and would not let me book SA/NA - Europe segment. But after I gave an example of hypothetical itinerary HKG-NA-SA-Europe-SWP-ASIA, he was convinced.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by number_6
...What are the implications of a DEL-ORD flight? How is it any different than a HKG-LAX flight? Or were they wanting to count that as an Atlantic ocean crossing?...
The OP's itinerary includes LAX-LHR, so if this makes it all the way to ticketing it will mean DEL-ORD was considered transpacific for OWE purposes.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 2:34 am
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Originally Posted by prudentbear
I just booked following AONE5...
Did you actually get 'A' on DEL-ORD?
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by prudentbear
I just booked following AONE5 itinerary for winter 2006:

DEL-ORD-LAX-SJO-LAX-SJU-ORD-MIA-SCL-CCS-(surface)-BOG-SCL-IPC-SCL-LAX-LHR-DXB-LHR-SYD-PER-MEL-(surface)-SYD-BOM

Initially, it did take some time with AA RTW desk to figure out implications of DEL-ORD flight.

Any thoughts how I can maximize AA miles with this itinerary??

Also, I really feel awful I do not have a single CX flight!!!
Actually SYD-BOM is operated on a QF 743 or 333 and no F Class is offered. It might be worthwhile to get out some AA domestic routes to experience proper F on these long haul routes.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Viajero
Did you actually get 'A' on DEL-ORD?
Confirmed in D, waitlisted in A..

Originally Posted by oneworld744
Actually SYD-BOM is operated on a QF 743 or 333 and no F Class is offered. It might be worthwhile to get out some AA domestic routes to experience proper F on these long haul routes.
I agree. I can change SYD=BOM to SYD(or MEL) - HKG - BOM on CX and rearrange NA segments.
Thanks
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by prudentbear
I can change SYD=BOM to SYD(or MEL) - HKG - BOM on CX and rearrange NA segments.
Well yes, but HKG-BOM on CX is 2-class with regional J (probably not as good as QF's J SYD-BOM) so I'm not sure that's much of an improvement. Is it really worth the extra for an AONE to get LAX-LHR and LHR-DXB-LHR in F rather than BA CW (assuming you don't get the ORD-DEL confirmed in A)? I don't think so.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 6:09 am
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Well yes, but HKG-BOM on CX is 2-class with regional J (probably not as good as QF's J SYD-BOM) so I'm not sure that's much of an improvement. Is it really worth the extra for an AONE to get LAX-LHR and LHR-DXB-LHR in F rather than BA CW (assuming you don't get the ORD-DEL confirmed in A)? I don't think so.
Well at least the OP can enjoy CX's F Class on 1 sector.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by christep
Well yes, but HKG-BOM on CX is 2-class with regional J (probably not as good as QF's J SYD-BOM) so I'm not sure that's much of an improvement. Is it really worth the extra for an AONE to get LAX-LHR and LHR-DXB-LHR in F rather than BA CW (assuming you don't get the ORD-DEL confirmed in A)? I don't think so.
You do have a good point. I just checked AONE and DONE prices from India and NA,... AONE prices from India are close to or even higher than NA!!

NA - AONE4 $9600, AONE5 $10,500, DONE4 $7700, DONE5 $8500
India - AONE4 $9600, AONE5 11,000, DONE4 $5700, DONE5 $6600

Definitely DONE is a better bargain for RTW originating in India..
A premium of $4500 is hard to justify for a total of 5 FC segments...
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 1:46 am
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I personally find that DONE4 are much better in value than AONE4 given there are not that many routes you can get "Real" F Class
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 2:05 am
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Well that depends... if the core of your AONE4 is, say:
CAI-LHR-(x)HKG-SYD-HKG-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-LHR-CAI
then I would say that's enough of a difference to make it worth the extra...
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 2:35 am
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Well that depends... if the core of your AONE4 is, say:
CAI-LHR-(x)HKG-SYD-HKG-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-LHR-CAI
then I would say that's enough of a difference to make it worth the extra...
or... CAI-LHR-MEX-SCL-GIG-SCL-LAX-JFK-HKG-NRT-HKG-LHR-CAI
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by christep
Well that depends... if the core of your AONE4 is, say:
CAI-LHR-(x)HKG-SYD-HKG-NRT-HKG-JFK-LAX-LHR-CAI
then I would say that's enough of a difference to make it worth the extra...
That's true, but if your an FT'er looking to push the mileage up it's a crap routing. I've looked at this pretty extensively in the last week or so and I'd say that the DONE4 is by far the best offering... in my case, on a 70,000 mile routing, I can get AA Exec Plat status and enough miles for a return LHR-SYD in F.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 3:44 am
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You can put a load more segments around the core I proposed and get up to 60,000+ easily enough. Does anyone plan to do a whole AONE4 entirely as a Mileage Run? I did once end up using an AONE3 as a substitute for a LHR-HKG-LHR roundtrip (i.e. the other 15 segments and going to CAI for it were purely for the miles), but that wasn't my intention when I bought it.

My point was that with those 10 segments featuring Real F it was worth the extra for AONE4 over DONE4.
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