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Feb 15, 2005 | 10:24 am

ELO

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RTw advice

Hi my name is Eric I am looking to do a RTW 6 continents in Nov 2005. I would like advise as to whether this itinerary fits into all the sectors, and if so could somebody please advise me , also how I could maximise miles , more the better
cai to lhr
lhr to cpt
cpt to sin
sin to hong kong
hong kong to perth via (syd on cx)
perth to adl
adl to darwin
darwin to cairns
surface to syd
syd to christchurch
surface to akl
akl to santago
santiago to lima
lima to buenes airies
surface to rio
rio to lax
lax to boston
boston to mia
mia to trinidad
trinidad to pueto rico
pueto rico to nyc
nyc to helsinki( finnair)
surface to moscow
moscow ro lhr
lhr to cairo
Thank you

Feb 15, 2005 | 10:44 am

Viajero

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Hi, Eric, welcome to FT!.

Several things wrong with your itinerary. Here are some of them:

* You cannot go to Moscow and Cairo from LHR, because Russia is in the list of countries restricted to only two flights to/from the UK.
* There are no direct OW flghts between CPT and SIN
* There are no direct OW flghts between RIO and LAX
* You have more than 20 segments.

Feb 15, 2005 | 12:03 pm

SLF

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See also this tool which is an excellent way of initially validating an itinerary.

Feb 15, 2005 | 5:20 pm

ELO

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Hi Viajero First of all Thank you for welcoming me , and secondly Thank you for your advice ,on my itinerary . I have redirected some of the itinerary ,hopefully this will be okay comments welcome
cai-lhr-lhr-cpt-surface-jnb- jnb-hkg-hkg-perth-perth-adl-adl-dar-dar-cairns surface to syd-syd -christchurch-surface akl -akl-santiago-lima-buenes aires-surface to rio -rio-lax I thought rio to lax was okay considering that it is a transcon? then lax to bos -mia-trinidad-trinidad -pueto rico-nyc-helsinki surface to moscow -lhr -lhr dxb
I would possibly have to pay for extra segments do you agree ?

Feb 15, 2005 | 5:22 pm

ELO

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Hi Ropmot 101 Thank you for the website , I have tried it , but unfortunately it has difficulty in interpretating airport codes ie. hkg , never the less I will endeavour to work it out Elo

Feb 15, 2005 | 5:41 pm

Viajero

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Originally Posted by ELO

... . I have redirected some of the itinerary ,hopefully this will be okay comments welcome
cai-lhr-lhr-cpt-surface-jnb- jnb-hkg-hkg-perth-perth-adl-adl-dar-dar-cairns surface to syd-syd -christchurch-surface akl -akl-santiago-lima-buenes aires-surface to rio -rio-lax I thought rio to lax was okay considering that it is a transcon? then lax to bos -mia-trinidad-trinidad -pueto rico-nyc-helsinki surface to moscow -lhr -lhr dxb ...

Nope.

* You still have more than two 'restricted' long segments from LHR: cai-lhr, mow-lhr and lhr-dxb.

* RIO-LAX is not ok, because there is no direct OW flight between those cities. And it is not a transcon, it is an intercontinental segment, if it were possible, which it is not.

Feb 15, 2005 | 5:52 pm

ELO

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Thanks Viajero. I still have a lot of retuning to do , any suggestions? the main reason for cai start" is the fare , but it seems to complicate matters + too many lhr ELO

Feb 16, 2005 | 2:45 am

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Quote:

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Hi Ropmot 101 Thank you for the website , I have tried it , but unfortunately it has difficulty in interpretating airport codes ie. hkg , never the less I will endeavour to work it out Elo

What is the text you're pasting into the OWE Validator? I've found it works fine (and I've used HKG in it too). Perhaps it's a problem with the way you're formatting it; you need to use the three-letter airport codes, and a single "-" with no spaces around it to separate them. "," can be used when a surface segment is required.

I have been told that surface segments are counted as a segment within the ticket, but I don't think the OWE validator counts them as such. Was the person telling me this wrong; i.e. do surface segments count as a regular segment towards the limit of 20?

Feb 16, 2005 | 2:50 am

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Originally Posted by ropmot141

I have been told that surface segments are counted as a segment within the ticket, but I don't think the OWE validator counts them as such. Was the person telling me this wrong; i.e. do surface segments count as a regular segment towards the limit of 20?

They didn't last year - we used 20 flight segments and 5 surface segments in a LONE5. YM, as always, MV

Feb 16, 2005 | 3:46 am

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Viajero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ropmot141

...
I have been told that surface segments are counted as a segment within the ticket, but I don't think the OWE validator counts them as such. Was the person telling me this wrong; i.e. do surface segments count as a regular segment towards the limit of 20?...

Surface segments do not count as segments but do count as stopovers. CAI-MAD//LHR-xHKG-..., for example, is two segments, one stopover.

Last edited by Viajero; Feb 16, 2005 at 3:57 am

Feb 16, 2005 | 3:52 am

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Originally Posted by ELO

...I still have a lot of retuning to do , any suggestions?...

Yes.

* Study the FAQ sticky thread above.
* Learn and use the airport codes (LHR, HKG, etc.), at least those of the places you want to visit. You will need this knowledge to be able to use the tools below, and to better communicate with the forum.
* Learn to use the itinerary validator, as suggested.
* Learn to use the OW Electronic Timetable.

Feb 16, 2005 | 5:01 am

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ELO

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Originally Posted by Viajero

Thanks Viajero . Point taken I will get back to you ,when I have completed my learning curve, it certainly makes you appreciate what TA have to go through , when trying to book itinerary Elo

Feb 16, 2005 | 8:29 am

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ELO

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Hi Viajero I finally managed to get the hang of the airport jargon. The itinerary validator has been very helpful . cai-lhr-jnb-hkg-per-adl-drw-syd-akl-scl-lim-eze-gru-mia-lax-nyc-hel-lhr-dxb
am I right to assume that my itinerrary would still be okay drw-cns surface to syd -chc- surface to akl and then continue as planned . I would like to add more mileage any suggestions gratefully recieved .current mileage excluding my surface changes is 52633 Elo

Feb 16, 2005 | 8:41 am

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Originally Posted by ELO

Yes, that should be ok. If you want to see it you can put the new itinerary through the validator yourself, this way:

cai-lhr-jnb-hkg-per-adl-drw-cns,syd-chc,akl-scl-lim-eze-gru-mia-lax-nyc-hel-lhr-dxb

Edited to add: for us to give you hints to maximise the miles/points/etc., you should tell us what FF program you would be crediting these miles to, and also what class of xONEx you plan to buy.

Last edited by Viajero; Feb 16, 2005 at 8:45 am