Involuntary Downgrades on RTW - Compensation?
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So, I'm already ticketed and reserved for an upcoming RTW AONE5. Segment in question is KIX-HKG on Cathay, which had been booked (and ticketed) in F/A. AA RTW desk calls and notifies of a schedule/equipment change such that my flight no longer offers F class (346 -> 773). Am I entitled to any involuntary downgrade compensation since I was already ticketed in First Class?
Would the 773 be that bad in J? I have several other CX flights in F already, so I will get to experience the service. Maybe it would be interesting to compare F to J?
Or, I can take the morning flight which offers F on the 333. However, that would only give me 1 1/2 days in Kyoto, instead of 2. Anyone know if that's enough?
Thanks
Would the 773 be that bad in J? I have several other CX flights in F already, so I will get to experience the service. Maybe it would be interesting to compare F to J?
Or, I can take the morning flight which offers F on the 333. However, that would only give me 1 1/2 days in Kyoto, instead of 2. Anyone know if that's enough?
Thanks
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You're definitely not entitled to compensation. At best, you might be able to get a free reissue w/amended itinerary (NRT-HKG instead of KIX-HKG).
I don't know what schedules you're looking at; the morning (10am) flight in late November was a 330 with C/Y. (There's also an 11am flight, but that stops in TPE and I believe is also C/Y.) The only problem with the flight was that they originally said we'd arrive at gate 3, but then changed to gate 70.
The flight in C is fine. You get the expected CX service along with a decent meal. I enjoy resting on long flights, but I don't have much use for a sleeper seat on a less-than-4-hour flight.
And I'm afraid that 2 days, let alone 1.5, isn't nearly enough to explore and enjoy Kyoto.
I don't know what schedules you're looking at; the morning (10am) flight in late November was a 330 with C/Y. (There's also an 11am flight, but that stops in TPE and I believe is also C/Y.) The only problem with the flight was that they originally said we'd arrive at gate 3, but then changed to gate 70.
The flight in C is fine. You get the expected CX service along with a decent meal. I enjoy resting on long flights, but I don't have much use for a sleeper seat on a less-than-4-hour flight.
And I'm afraid that 2 days, let alone 1.5, isn't nearly enough to explore and enjoy Kyoto.
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Originally Posted by wideman
You're definitely not entitled to compensation. At best, you might be able to get a free reissue w/amended itinerary (NRT-HKG instead of KIX-HKG).
I don't know what schedules you're looking at; the morning (10am) flight in late November was a 330 with C/Y. (There's also an 11am flight, but that stops in TPE and I believe is also C/Y.) The only problem with the flight was that they originally said we'd arrive at gate 3, but then changed to gate 70.
The flight in C is fine. You get the expected CX service along with a decent meal. I enjoy resting on long flights, but I don't have much use for a sleeper seat on a less-than-4-hour flight.
And I'm afraid that 2 days, let alone 1.5, isn't nearly enough to explore and enjoy Kyoto.
And I'm afraid that 2 days, let alone 1.5, isn't nearly enough to explore and enjoy Kyoto.
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I've had as few as 2 segments in 3-class F on an AONEx ticket. It all depends on how tight your schedule and routing is. In fact my last DONEx had more 3-class F segments in it! (thanks to upgrades on QF, BA and CX). I suppose it evens out in the end, but I've found A availability to be quite bad on my dates/routes. Combined with the decline in service levels in F and improvement in J and it really isn't worth it on some routes/schedules.
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Originally Posted by number_6
I've had as few as 2 segments in 3-class F on an AONEx ticket. It all depends on how tight your schedule and routing is. In fact my last DONEx had more 3-class F segments in it! (thanks to upgrades on QF, BA and CX). I suppose it evens out in the end, but I've found A availability to be quite bad on my dates/routes. Combined with the decline in service levels in F and improvement in J and it really isn't worth it on some routes/schedules.

