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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 1:12 am
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Great resource hauteboy ^ , thanks.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 4:24 am
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Let me add my voice to the chorus of praise - hurrah for hauteboy, a magnificent effort. Now for me just to get the next RTW going (ohhhhh, too far away! ).
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 11:01 pm
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The validator doesn't like either of these RTW itineraries:

yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz

bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos

Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?


Also, do you need a way to designate transit-only segments? And if so, perhaps > or = could be used to note a transit-only segment that would otherwise violate a ONE rule.

I also recommend allowing remarks or comments in the sequence for the validator to ignore, but the human to be able to see. Perhaps square brackets [could be used to make remarks] in the string to be validated.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by 925
The validator doesn't like either of these RTW itineraries:

yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz

bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos

Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?
It looks like the tool is [incorrectly] considering USA-Puerto Rico and USA-Canada as international travel.

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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 7:44 am
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Yeah, that's one of the bugs I need to work on.. Canada/US/PR/VI? and Denmark/Sweden/Norway are considered the same country so it shouldn't trigger the multiple entry/exit rule.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:05 am
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Ok.. Version 0.4 released.. fixes the us/ca/pr/vi and dk/se/no 'same country' rule.. so the following are valid itins:

yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz

bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos

osl-arn-lhr-hel-hkg-jfk-hel-cph

Transit rules still aren't checked.. they're a bit trickier
ie. I was able to ticket JFK-SCL-(LAX-JFK)-SYD as a valid transit.

Would HKG-(FRA-LHR)-ACC-LHR-DXB be considered as transit?
How about LHR-(NRT-HKG)-AKL-HKG-KHI? or
JFK-HKG-NRT-MEL-AKL-(HKG-SIN)-LHR?

I plan on using the ()'s to denote the transit segments if and when I get this working.


The LAX-JFK might be a special case as it was domestic flight.
I am guessing the other examples would NOT be allowed.

I don't know of any 'transit only' segments that wouldn't violate a rule.. or were you referring to my JFK-SCL-LAX-JFK-SYD example?

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 1:01 am
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Great Tool.

How about adding totals to the OWE QF status columns.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 9:13 pm
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This is an excellent tool, hauteboy! ^

I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -

J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.

I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by santana
This is an excellent tool, hauteboy! ^

I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -

J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.

I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
You should be able to do both no worries, the semi-colon separates them into two separate restrictions. So as you successfully managed, you can do that (so SYD-DRW-PER-SYD is legitimate for instance). You just can't do SYD-DRW-MEL or SYD-PER-BNE for instance.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by GibSpmuh
You should be able to do both no worries, the semi-colon separates them into two separate restrictions. So as you successfully managed, you can do that (so SYD-DRW-PER-SYD is legitimate for instance). You just can't do SYD-DRW-MEL or SYD-PER-BNE for instance.
That's correct.. SYD-DRW-PER-MEL is allowed according to the rules. Incidentally the longest routes in Australia are now SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD.. though involves staying over in Broome overnight. although the wording in the rules does tend to be ambiguous sometimes!
A few minor updates, I've been working on adding support to the planner tool to show what fare classes are offered on that route.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 12:55 am
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Originally Posted by GibSpmuh
You should be able to do both no worries, the semi-colon separates them into two separate restrictions. So as you successfully managed, you can do that (so SYD-DRW-PER-SYD is legitimate for instance). You just can't do SYD-DRW-MEL or SYD-PER-BNE for instance.
Ah! Excellent! I can go back to my original itinerary then -
SYD-DRW
DRW-ADL
ADL-PER
PER-SYD

Instead of doing PER-MEL and then get an extra ticket for MEL-SYD.

Thanks, GibSpmuh! ^
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 9:44 am
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So, assuming SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is the longest in Australia, what is the longest in all of SWP? Surely there must be a longer routing. For example, does MNL qualify? Or some other SWP airport?

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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by 925
So, assuming SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is the longest in Australia, what is the longest in all of SWP? Surely there must be a longer routing. For example, does MNL qualify? Or some other SWP airport?
Unfortunately, both Africa and Australia are pretty slim when it comes to long segments.
PER-BNE is actually the longest segment in SWP.. but because of the restrictions to PER, SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is probably the longest possible routing. MNL is considered part of Asia.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 6:24 pm
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There used to be a PER-AKL flight (a BA extension to their 744 service LHR-SIN-PER I think). But that stopped quite a few years back. SWP (from a OneWorld perspective) only covers Australia, New Zullund, PNG and the Pacific Island ports of Noumea, Suva, Nadi, Apia, Port Vila and Papeete. However, some of these Island ports are only accessible via codeshares on a Global Explorer fare and not on a OneWorld Explorer fare.

Anothefr good earner is PER-CNS, but it also falls under the same segment restrictions as PER-SYD and PER-BNE.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 6:26 pm
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We can still live in hope that there'll be a PER-AKL direct flight one day (like NZ has already) - or in the even remoter hope that QF actually returning some of their own metal across the SWP to the likes of PPT, but for the moment I certainly wouldn't be holding my breath on that ever happening (or if it does it'll almost certainly be under AO instead of QF *sigh*).
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