Oneworld Explorer itinerary validator
#18
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Marriott Titanium
Posts: 2,861
The validator doesn't like either of these RTW itineraries:
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?
Also, do you need a way to designate transit-only segments? And if so, perhaps > or = could be used to note a transit-only segment that would otherwise violate a ONE rule.
I also recommend allowing remarks or comments in the sequence for the validator to ignore, but the human to be able to see. Perhaps square brackets [could be used to make remarks] in the string to be validated.
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?
Also, do you need a way to designate transit-only segments? And if so, perhaps > or = could be used to note a transit-only segment that would otherwise violate a ONE rule.
I also recommend allowing remarks or comments in the sequence for the validator to ignore, but the human to be able to see. Perhaps square brackets [could be used to make remarks] in the string to be validated.
#19
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Madrid, Spain & Santiago, Chile
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,181
Originally Posted by 925
The validator doesn't like either of these RTW itineraries:
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
Are they valid? And if so, can they be used to diagnose the difficulty?
Last edited by Viajero; Sep 1, 2004 at 1:11 am
#20
Original Poster

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Austin, TX -- AA Life Platinum; QF Life Silver; UA Silver
Posts: 5,467
Yeah, that's one of the bugs I need to work on.. Canada/US/PR/VI? and Denmark/Sweden/Norway are considered the same country so it shouldn't trigger the multiple entry/exit rule.
#21
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Austin, TX -- AA Life Platinum; QF Life Silver; UA Silver
Posts: 5,467
Ok.. Version 0.4 released.. fixes the us/ca/pr/vi and dk/se/no 'same country' rule.. so the following are valid itins:
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
osl-arn-lhr-hel-hkg-jfk-hel-cph
Transit rules still aren't checked.. they're a bit trickier
ie. I was able to ticket JFK-SCL-(LAX-JFK)-SYD as a valid transit.
Would HKG-(FRA-LHR)-ACC-LHR-DXB be considered as transit?
How about LHR-(NRT-HKG)-AKL-HKG-KHI? or
JFK-HKG-NRT-MEL-AKL-(HKG-SIN)-LHR?
I plan on using the ()'s to denote the transit segments if and when I get this working.
The LAX-JFK might be a special case as it was domestic flight.
I am guessing the other examples would NOT be allowed.
I don't know of any 'transit only' segments that wouldn't violate a rule.. or were you referring to my JFK-SCL-LAX-JFK-SYD example?
yyz-ord-anc-dfw-lga,jfk-syd-akl-mel-hkg-nrt-hkg-sin-hkg-lhr-dxb-lhr-ist-lhr-yvr-jfk,lga-yyz
bos-dfw-anc-dfw-sju-lax-lhr-dxb-lhr-rom-hel-hkg-nrt-hkg-jfk-bos
osl-arn-lhr-hel-hkg-jfk-hel-cph
Transit rules still aren't checked.. they're a bit trickier
ie. I was able to ticket JFK-SCL-(LAX-JFK)-SYD as a valid transit.
Would HKG-(FRA-LHR)-ACC-LHR-DXB be considered as transit?
How about LHR-(NRT-HKG)-AKL-HKG-KHI? or
JFK-HKG-NRT-MEL-AKL-(HKG-SIN)-LHR?
I plan on using the ()'s to denote the transit segments if and when I get this working.

The LAX-JFK might be a special case as it was domestic flight.
I am guessing the other examples would NOT be allowed.

I don't know of any 'transit only' segments that wouldn't violate a rule.. or were you referring to my JFK-SCL-LAX-JFK-SYD example?
Last edited by hauteboy; Sep 1, 2004 at 11:13 am
#23
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SYD
Programs: QFF Bronze, Qantas Club, AA
Posts: 27
This is an excellent tool, hauteboy! ^
I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -
J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.
I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -
J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.
I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
#24
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Programs: QF QP NB, PC Plat. Amb, SPG Gold
Posts: 1,879
Originally Posted by santana
This is an excellent tool, hauteboy! ^
I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -
J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.
I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
I just wanted to point out a bug which refers to this rule -
J)WITHIN AUSTRALIA - ONLY O N E NONSTOP/SINGLE
PLANE SERVICE IS PERMITTED BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING
POINTS:
BNE/CNS/SYD-PER;
MEL/SYD-DRW.
EXCEPTION: NO RESTRICTION BETWEEN SYD-PER FOR
PASSENGERS ORIGINATIING IN PER WHEN IN
CONJUNCTION
WITH TRAVEL TO/FROM AFRICA.
I initially had a SYD-PER and DRW-SYD segments, and the tool accepted it.
#25
Original Poster

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Austin, TX -- AA Life Platinum; QF Life Silver; UA Silver
Posts: 5,467
Originally Posted by GibSpmuh
You should be able to do both no worries, the semi-colon separates them into two separate restrictions. So as you successfully managed, you can do that (so SYD-DRW-PER-SYD is legitimate for instance). You just can't do SYD-DRW-MEL or SYD-PER-BNE for instance.
A few minor updates, I've been working on adding support to the planner tool to show what fare classes are offered on that route.
#26
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SYD
Programs: QFF Bronze, Qantas Club, AA
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by GibSpmuh
You should be able to do both no worries, the semi-colon separates them into two separate restrictions. So as you successfully managed, you can do that (so SYD-DRW-PER-SYD is legitimate for instance). You just can't do SYD-DRW-MEL or SYD-PER-BNE for instance.
SYD-DRW
DRW-ADL
ADL-PER
PER-SYD
Instead of doing PER-MEL and then get an extra ticket for MEL-SYD.
Thanks, GibSpmuh! ^
#27
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Marriott Titanium
Posts: 2,861
So, assuming SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is the longest in Australia, what is the longest in all of SWP? Surely there must be a longer routing. For example, does MNL qualify? Or some other SWP airport?
Last edited by 925; Sep 28, 2004 at 9:57 am
#28
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Austin, TX -- AA Life Platinum; QF Life Silver; UA Silver
Posts: 5,467
Originally Posted by 925
So, assuming SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is the longest in Australia, what is the longest in all of SWP? Surely there must be a longer routing. For example, does MNL qualify? Or some other SWP airport?
PER-BNE is actually the longest segment in SWP.. but because of the restrictions to PER, SYD-BME-SYD-BME-SYD is probably the longest possible routing. MNL is considered part of Asia.
#29
Join Date: Aug 2001
Programs: AA Plat & LTG; QF LTG
Posts: 9,837
There used to be a PER-AKL flight (a BA extension to their 744 service LHR-SIN-PER I think). But that stopped quite a few years back. SWP (from a OneWorld perspective) only covers Australia, New Zullund, PNG and the Pacific Island ports of Noumea, Suva, Nadi, Apia, Port Vila and Papeete. However, some of these Island ports are only accessible via codeshares on a Global Explorer fare and not on a OneWorld Explorer fare.
Anothefr good earner is PER-CNS, but it also falls under the same segment restrictions as PER-SYD and PER-BNE.
Anothefr good earner is PER-CNS, but it also falls under the same segment restrictions as PER-SYD and PER-BNE.
#30
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Programs: QF QP NB, PC Plat. Amb, SPG Gold
Posts: 1,879
We can still live in hope that there'll be a PER-AKL direct flight one day (like NZ has already) - or in the even remoter hope that QF actually returning some of their own metal across the SWP to the likes of PPT, but for the moment I certainly wouldn't be holding my breath on that ever happening (or if it does it'll almost certainly be under AO instead of QF *sigh*).


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