24hrs exactly - stopover or transit?
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The rule for a OWE stopover reads:
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
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Originally Posted by Viajero
The rule for a OWE stopover reads:
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
I agree with your interpretation though, and armed with the star file and some gentle brow-beating, you should be able to prevail. I have no direct experience of this myself though.
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Originally Posted by Viajero
The rule for a OWE stopover reads:
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
152N . 1. A STOPOVER IS A BREAK OF JOURNEY OVER 24 HOURS.
My planned flight arrives at LHR at 21:30, and I want to connect with another that departs LHR at 21:30 the following day.
The way I see it that's 24 hours exactly (not over) so it should be allowed as a transit. Will the airlines agree?
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AA sticks to a 23:59 rule
When I asked AA how long a NY connection could be (LHR-JFK-GIG), they told me that they count anything over 23 hours 59 minutes as a stopover, which incurs an extra charge depending on the fare. I'd advise you to call the airline to doublecheck, but I'm sure you could persuade them that one minute (21:30 landing one day and 21:30 takeoff the next=24 hours unfortunately) between friends isn't a big deal. Then again, it might be a computer thing which a nice agent would have to manually override. I'd be curious to get their answer.
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Originally Posted by efamous
When I asked AA how long a NY connection could be (LHR-JFK-GIG), they told me that they count anything over 23 hours 59 minutes as a stopover, which incurs an extra charge depending on the fare. I'd advise you to call the airline to doublecheck, but I'm sure you could persuade them that one minute (21:30 landing one day and 21:30 takeoff the next=24 hours unfortunately) between friends isn't a big deal. Then again, it might be a computer thing which a nice agent would have to manually override. I'd be curious to get their answer.
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Originally Posted by efamous
When I asked AA how long a NY connection could be (LHR-JFK-GIG), they told me that they count anything over 23 hours 59 minutes as a stopover, which incurs an extra charge depending on the fare. I'd advise you to call the airline to doublecheck, but I'm sure you could persuade them that one minute (21:30 landing one day and 21:30 takeoff the next=24 hours unfortunately) between friends isn't a big deal. Then again, it might be a computer thing which a nice agent would have to manually override. I'd be curious to get their answer.
Hmm. Funny that the SABRE computer treats it as a connection. So I would go by what the computer says!
I don't exactly know what flights the OP is taking.. but here is an example of what SABRE or any other CRS will do...
AA 142J 08SEP 3 JFKLHR SS1 0830 2015
AF2271C 09SEP 4 LHRCDG SS1 2015 2225
You see the fare calculation below..... x/ means it's counted as CONNECTION.
NYC AA X/LON Q8.00 AF PAR
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