aa.com says this about oneworld awards (through partners):

"... Travel must include at least two oneworld partners other than American Airlines or American Eagle..."

Does the above mean the minimum is three airlines (AA + two others)?
Does it mean, therefore, that at least one sector must be flown with AA?

TIA.

No. You need to fly two airlines other than American regardless of whether you fly American or not.

Hi,

What, where? Is this just an AA thing as I cannot find it on their site.

Cheers

Spotwelder

Go here and click on Oneworld: http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnerType=Air

Same applies to AY Oneworld award (must include at least two other Oneworld partners other than AY).

This rule is the same for all OneWorld Awards, regardless of the airline program. You must include travel on at least two airlines which are not the one providing the award. Additionally, you may include the awarding airline or you wish, but do not have to do so.

Do you know if codeshares count as different 'airlines' for these awards?

For instance, IB flight on IB metal, plus LA flight also on IB metal... �two 'airlines' or only one?

Sorry but I cannot find anything out about this at all. Tried the AA link but I could not find it, nothing on BA and QF sites could be found.

Can we start from basics. What is being offered as it sounds like what was up a few years ago when you had to do as many 1W carriers as possible to get a big mileage bonus. I am off on a couple of RTWs shortly so it could be vital in the mileage run calculations for coupon wasting ideas.

Cheers

Spotwelder

The link given is correct. Towards the middle of the page you will find this:
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Using AAdvantage Miles
Making Award Reservations | Travel Embargo Dates

When you're ready to redeem your miles for a travel award, oneworld brings you more options than ever. The oneworld awards are valid on American Airlines, Aer Lingus, British Airways, Cathay Pacific Airways, Finnair, Iberia, LanChile and Qantas Airways. The number of miles redeemed varies depending on the distance and class of service traveled. To determine the award for your travel plans, please call AAdvantage Reservations with your complete itinerary and one of our helpful service representatives will calculate the miles you are flying and advise you of the correct award to use.

Note: AAdvantage members cannot redeem AAdvantage miles for travel on British Airways transatlantic flights between Europe and the U.S. Likewise, British Airways Executive Club members cannot redeem Executive Club miles on AA's transatlantic flights between Europe and the U.S.

Valid: All eight oneworld carriers may be used on one award as long as the mileage maximum is not exceeded (see distance range). Travel must include at least two oneworld partners other than American Airlines or American Eagle.

Routing: Members may fly unlimited segments and may stop in each city once, but may not connect in the same city more than twice. Passengers may not stopover or connect in the city where travel originated.

oneworld Award Codes contain an "OW" for oneworld, the number of miles needed to claim the award (in thousands; for example 30 for 30,000 miles), and a letter code for class of service. For example OW30Y.
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And then come all the tables with the total number of miles needed for the different types of awards, based on distance and class.

Codeshares are typically not allowed for awards at all, only for paid tickets.

Here is the QF link to the info on their OneWorld Award. Scroll down to the table for OneWorld Award and read the text above the table.

In the QF progra, you can redeem a QF award (using only QF flights), a Partner Award (using QF plus one other partner airline), or the OneWorld Award (using at least two non-QF OneWorld airlines). These have slightly different points requirements.

The OneWorld award is supposed to be a consistent product across all OneWorld airlines.

Here is the link to the info for the BA EC.

Huh? The AA program for one is an "all-airline" based awards system for general awards, meaning you can take flights on any of the offered partners. I am pretty sure that QFF has basically the same system. AFAIK the only codeshare restrictions are (i) on paid OWE tickets you cannot take a codeshare not operated by a OW airline or its affiliate airline, and (ii) you cannot upgrade codeshare flights (except maybe through AsiaMiles I think).

Thanks NM.

I have more than enough for a J LHR to BNE which is coming up shortly. However, is there anyway that I can do an RTW with more than one stopover in each direction on a UK-Australia run? Is there a standard mileage or a miles per stopover or is it just single-single-single mileage (particularly bad value on QF as they charge you the return).

A sort of DONE4 route UK-US-Australia-Asia-UK would be what I am after.

Cheers

The QF version of the OneWorld Award calculates the distance including the return to the point of origin. But, that is as a point-to-point distance from the last stop to the starting point, not tracing back along the outbound route.

So if you start in LHR and go something like LHR-SIN-BNE-LAX-JFK-MAN, the QF distance calculation will include a MAN-LHR sector.

Last year I redeemed 7 x QF OneWorld 35,000 mile awards going BNE-LAX//LAS-DFW-MCO//YYZ-LHR-KBP//KBP-LHR-NCL//TXL-HEL//HEL-FRA-HKG-SYD-BNE. This is designed to be able to function as a RTW award.

You could also use the QF/BA or QF/AA partner award as a RTW. So for 220K QF points, you could travel up to 30,000 miles on QF/BA or QF/AA. So if your main goal is to get from London to Brisbane in business class, you could go LHR-SYD-BNE-SYD-JFK-LHR, which is under 25,000 miles and still have 5000 miles up your sleeve.

Given that the shortest path between LHR and BNE return is over 21,000 miles, you are into the zone 5 catagory anyway, so its the same number of points to make it a RTW so long as you stick to just QF and either BA or AA as the airlines used.