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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:48 am
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Q) Can I re-enter a region/continent after leaving it?
A) Generally NO ecept in the following circumstances:

-- where only transiting through Asia on a Europe-SWP flight (or vice versa)
-- where only transiting through Asia on a SWP-NA flight (or vice versa)
-- others? (eg Europe from Africa??)
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:19 pm
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Q) where can i fly on a Oneworld ticket
A) you can get an idea of available destinations from the AA website
http://www.aa.com/content/aboutUs/wh...horEvent=false
if you choose the link - and select oneworld cities once the area has loaded

Q) what tools are available for working out my itinary
A) you can download the Oneworld electronic timetable here http://www.oneworldtimetable.com/oneworld.exe
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:50 pm
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Q) Can I upgrade some of the sectors to fly business/first class?

A) In limited circumstances. (i) You can upgrade your entire itinerary - subject to availability - by paying the higher class fare but otherwise without penalty, (ii) flights operated by AA may be upgraded with AA miles, (iii) US/Canada domestic flights operated by AA may be upgraded with 500-mile "sticker" upgrades issued by AA, (iv) flights on BA that offer World Traveler Plus (WT+) service can be upgraded for USD300/AUD600 except for service between LHR and SYD/MEL where the charge is USD450/AUD900. BA also offers "on board" upgrades for prices ranging from GBP200 up if there is a spare seat on board. Talk to the purser when you board, but these upgrades only qualify for the mileage/status you originally booked. For instance you were in BA economy and upgraded on board to WT+ for GBP200 on LHR-SIN, you only get the discount economy miles, not the WT+ miles.


Q) What is the booking class for RTW tickets on OneWorld? I want to work out how many miles I will earn.

A) Basically Economy = L, Business = D, First = A. On AA flights within the US that only offer Coach and First, you are booked into the A (First) inventory if it is available. For domestic flights with Lan Chile (where there is no premuim cabin), Y is the applicable booking class for business or first class tickets; economy tickets still book into L class. As specified in another FAQ, other than the AA business-books-into-first thing, if the inventory is not available for your class you get downgraded to the next inventory bucket and no compensation or refund is payable.

Last edited by eamus; Jun 30, 2004 at 4:32 pm Reason: including virtualroy's point about domestic LA booking class
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Q) What is the booking class for RTW tickets on OneWorld? I want to work out how many miles I will earn.

A) Economy = L, Business = D, First = A. On flights within the US that only offer Coach and First, you are booked into the A (First) inventory if it is available.
For domestic flights with LA: Y shall be the applicable booking class for DONE* / AONE* tickets; L otherwise.

General rule: Where no first / business cabin is available, the next booking class down to the ticket class will be booked. Eg If no A class available, use D, if no D available use Y. If no Y available, you're on the wing
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 1:53 pm
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RE: Upgrades

While I don't think it is mentioned specifically in the rules I believe QF FF's can upgrade individual QF sectors with miles or upgrade credits.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 1:57 pm
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Q) Can I take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or v.v.) within the U.S.
A) Yes, with qualifications. You may have to argue with res. staff as technically QF do not have traffic rights on that sector.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 4:03 am
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this is how it looks soo far - this is primarily for THE ONE WORLD EXPLORER TICKETS

Q) What airlines can i fly with on a ONE ticket
A) Any current Oneworld partner airline, Aer Lingus, American Airlines, British airways, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Iberia, Lan, Qantas you may also fly affiliate airlines,
American ConnectionSM *
American Eagle **

British Mediterranean +
BA CitiExpress
Comair +
GB Airways +
Loganair +
Sun-Air +
Zambian Airways +
Regional Air +

Lan Express
LanPeru

QantasLink
Jetconnect

Aer Lingus, Cathay Pacific Airways and Finnair do not have any affiliates.

* AmericanConnection service is operated by one of the following independent carriers: Trans State Airlines Inc., Chantauqua Airlines Inc., and Corporate Airlines Inc..
** American Eagle service includes flights operated by Executive Air, TWA, and American Connection.
Independently operated franchise carriers using the British Airways name, livery and flight code and offering British Airways products and services.
LAN flights operated by LanEcuador and LanDominicana are not included.
QantasLink includes flights operated by National Jet Systems, Eastern Australia, Southern Australia, and Sunstate Airlines.

NOTE: The ticket must fly on one of the above airlines, codeshares with other partner/ affiliate airlines are not permitted on this ticket

NOTE If a ticket includes travel to / from / via Cuba it may not also include flight segments for travel on American Airlines / American Eagle / American Connection due to US Government restrictions

Note: It is possible to fly with one airline and use another airlines booking ie fly BA but use an AA flight code this is usually defined by having an extra digit in the flight number - this benefit is to consied which frequent flyer membership you are with and what bonuses are given with these flights

Q) How are the ONE regions defined
A) http://www.tarom.net/ba/explorer.pdf If you look here you will see a map, this shows you the defined regions

The continets and the countries contained below are defined as

North America- UNITED STATES/ CANADA/MEXICO/CARIBBEAN AREA/CENTRAL AMERICA/PANAMA
South America - ALL OF SOUTH AMERICA /EXCLUDING Europe -ALL OF EUROPE /INCLUDING ALGERIA, MOROCCO, TUNISIA,ALL OF MIDDLE EAST /INCLUDING ,EGYPT, SUDAN
Africa - ALL OF AFRICA /EXCLUDING ALGERIA,EGYPT, MOROCCO, TUNISIA
Asia - ALL OF ASIA /EXCLUDING THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC
South West - ALL OF SOUTH WEST PACIFIC

Q) What restrictions do i have per region/ continent
A) Europe - Not more than two Europe/Middle east flights may be used for journeys between the U.K. and the following: Algeria; Armenia; Azerbaijan; Bulgaria; Cyprus; Georgia; Greece; Israel; Malta; Morocco; Funchal, Portugal; Romania; Russia; Tunisia; Ukraine; Yugoslavia; and the Middle East.

Americas - Within North America, only one transcontinental flight is allowed between selected cities on the East and West Coasts defined as between
BWI/BOS/FLL/BDL/MIA/EWR/NYC/ORL/PHL/SJU/YYZ/WAS
AND
LAS/LGB/LAX/OAK/SNA/PDX/SAN/SFO/SEA/SJC/YVR

only 1 segment is permitted between the US and Hawaii- (thus you must go to/from Australia)

Australia/ Pacific - Within Australia only one flight is permitted between Perth and Brisbane, Cairns or Sydney or between Darwin and Melbourne or Sydney (this restriction does not apply for passengers traveling to/from Africa on the Sydney-Perth direct flights).

Asia- No tickets to Vietnam or Cambodia permitted

South America -?

Africa - ?

Q) Where can i fly on a Oneworld ticket
A) You can get an idea of available destinations from the AA website
http://www.aa.com/content/aboutUs/w...chorEvent=false
if you choose the link - and select oneworld cities once the area has loaded

Q) What tools are available for working out my itinary/ timetables
A) You can download the Oneworld electronic timetable here http://www.oneworldtimetable.com/oneworld.exe

Q) Can I re-enter a region/continent after leaving it?
A) Generally NO ecept in the following circumstances:

-- where only transiting through Asia on a Europe-SWP flight (or vice versa)
-- where only transiting through Asia on a SWP-NA flight (or vice versa)
-- others? (eg Europe from Africa??)
--I believe NA, to/from South America.

Q) Can i backtrack
A) Yes you can backtrack within the region/continent provided you meet the above rules


Q) If i buy a first class rtw and there is no first class on my flight what happens?
A) You will travel in the next avail class J/D or Y and you will only receive Frequent Flyer points for the class you fly.
If the inventory is not available for your class you payed for you get downgraded to the next inventory bucket/ class and no compensation or refund is payable.



Q) How many flights am i allowed on a ONE ticket
A) Up to a max of 20
you are permitted 4 Segments per continent/region - you are allowed 6 in the US - you are only allowed 2 stops in the continent/region of origin (but you may still use the 4/6 segments)
trans pac/ atantic flights do not count towards your zone allowance

Q) What is a stopover defined as
A) stopver is defined as a stop over a 24 hr period

Q) Are there any benefits of connections within 24 hrs
A) Some airports (eg LHR) do not charge transitting pax the airport/departure tax - hence if layover is up to 24 hours, you don't incur this tax.
Secondly, you can "stop" in a city even though you are out of stopovers (eg in continent of origin only 2 allowed) but this will not count as a "stopover" if less than 24 hours.


Q) What constitutes a segment for the purposes of the fare rules?
A) A segment is a flight with a single flight number between two cities - whether or not it stops between origin and destination, and whether or not there is a change of a/c along the way

E.g. SYD-JFK is one segment (and does not count towards one transcon in NA) even though it stops in LAX

BUT

NRT-BKK is two segments - CX NRT-HKG and CX HKG-BKK as no single flight number on OW airline can get you between NRT and BKK



Q) Can i end my itininary in a differnet city than i purchased it in,
A) Yes you can for example start in CAI and end in DXB
Rules state - ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE PERMITTED:
WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.-BETWEEN U.S.A-CANADA
WITHIN AFRICA
WITHIN THE MIDDLE EAST
BETWEEN HKG-CHINA
BETWEEN BANGLADESH-BKK/SIN
WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
BETWEEN MAYLAYSIA-SIN


Q) Can I upgrade some of the sectors to fly business/first class?
A) In limited circumstances. (i) You can upgrade your entire itinerary - subject to availability - by paying the higher class fare but otherwise without penalty, (ii) flights operated by AA may be upgraded with AA miles, (iii) US/Canada domestic flights operated by AA may be upgraded with 500-mile "sticker" upgrades issued by AA, (iv) flights on BA that offer World Traveler Plus (WT+) service can be upgraded for USD300/AUD600 except for service between LHR and SYD/MEL where the charge is USD450/AUD900. BA also offers "on board" upgrades for prices ranging from GBP200 up if there is a spare seat on board. Talk to the purser when you board, but these upgrades only qualify for the mileage/status you originally booked. For instance you were in BA economy and upgraded on board to WT+ for GBP200 on LHR-SIN, you only get the discount economy miles, not the WT+ miles.


Q) What is the booking class for RTW tickets on OneWorld? I want to work out how many miles I will earn.

A) Basically Economy = L, Business = D, First = A. On AA flights within the US that only offer Coach and First, you are booked into the A (First) inventory if it is available. For domestic flights with Lan Chile (where there is no premuim cabin), Y is the applicable booking class for business or first class tickets; economy tickets still book into L class. As specified in another FAQ, AA Flights booked with a DONE will be booked in F ( and recieve F points),


Q) Can I take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or v.v.) within the U.S.
A) Yes, with qualifications. You may have to argue with res. staff as technically QF do not have traffic rights on that sector.

Q) I'm nearly ready to book - what is open segments and why do that?
A) An Open segment is referred to in ONE as setting your rtw itinary in advance but not confirming your seat on the plane - thus leaving the date "open" but still having your route pre-planned, if you do this it is easier to change you travel plans as you travel rtw - if you book certain flights this may effect changes as you go and you will have to change all the onward flights and not just the next. Please mind the time of year you travel and the avail of F/D seats on certain carriers/routes

Q) Can i change my mind
A) Yes you can change the dates free of charge (some carriers try to charge you a sevice fee) - you can do a complete re-route of your trip for $75 US with any partner airline but some carriers do try and charge service fees (most notably BA & QF)

Q) Where can i get a copy of the rules/ starfiles
A) Usermark has an updated record ^ so everybody thank him http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFi...eExplorer.html

Q) You people are talking in code. Do you have a glossary?

A) The basics:

ONE or OWE = OneWorld Explorer ticket
DONE4 = D class (business) OneWorld Explorer ticket for 4 continents. The initial letter is A, D or L depending on whether it is First, Bus. or Economy, and the final number is the number of continents, 3-6 (sometimes a * is used to inidicate a generic question/response)

The Airlines:
AA = American Airlines
AY = Finnair
BA = British Airways
CX = Cathay Pacific
EI = Aer Lingus
IB = Iberia
LA = Lan Chile
QF = Qantas (which DOES NOT HAVE A "U" IN IT !!!!!!!)

Other Useful Terms:
J, Y, F = the revenue based (paid fare) booking classes for business, economy and first class. *ONE* tickets generally use D, L and A for the respective cabins
RTW = round the world
SWP = South West Pacific (one of the continents)
VDB = voluntary denied boarding, i.e. a "bump"
(or v.v.) = or the other direction
WT+ = World Traveller Plus, the premium economy cabin on some BA flights
744/A333/A343/74J = types of aircraft. A 744 is a Boeing 747 with the last number changed to indicate the particular configuration (-400 in this case). An A333 is an Airbus A330 of a particular type (-300 in this case). This is the shorthand used by the airlines and you can search the airline forums for advice on seats etc.
NOTE:

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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 4:50 am
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if anyone has anything to add or wants to rework the above please feel free- i would like to re post this in a new Q&A for ONE thread - and at least then people can be directed here/there first..

And please point out errrors

Thanks you to those who have contributed to the Q&A so far- ^ ^

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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by ajinlondon
... -- others? (eg Europe from Africa??) ...
Yes, I believe NA, to/from South America.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 8:13 am
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Will happily add more if anyone has suggestions

Q) You people are talking in code. Do you have a glossary?

A) The basics:

ONE or OWE = OneWorld Explorer ticket
DONE4 = D class (business) OneWorld Explorer ticket for 4 continents. The initial letter is A, D or L depending on whether it is First, Bus. or Economy, and the final number is the number of continents, 3-6 (sometimes a * is used to inidicate a generic question/response)

The Airlines:
AA = American Airlines
AY = Finnair
BA = British Airways
CX = Cathay Pacific
EI = Aer Lingus
IB = Iberia
LA = Lan Chile
QF = Qantas (which DOES NOT HAVE A "U" IN IT !!!!!!!)

Other Useful Terms:
J, Y, F = the revenue based (paid fare) booking classes for business, economy and first class. *ONE* tickets generally use D, L and A for the respective cabins
RTW = round the world
SWP = South West Pacific (one of the continents)
VDB = voluntary denied boarding, i.e. a "bump"
(or v.v.) = or the other direction
WT+ = World Traveller Plus, the premium economy cabin on some BA flights
744/A333/A343/74J = types of aircraft. A 744 is a Boeing 747 with the last number changed to indicate the particular configuration (-400 in this case). An A333 is an Airbus A330 of a particular type (-300 in this case). This is the shorthand used by the airlines and you can search the airline forums for advice on seats etc.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:30 am
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well i think the above covers most stuff for a start on a FAQ thread... - or am i way out-
maybe those who read/ view this thread could post to confirm it is ready to be re posted as a new thread with correct title?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:14 pm
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well i think the above covers most stuff for a start on a FAQ thread... - or am i way out-
maybe those who read/ view this thread could post to confirm it is ready to be re posted as a new thread with correct title?
Fine to start with, but the lawyer in me is crossing fingers for the final version to be all pretty with correct spelling and capitalisation, consistent formatting, all that stuff for which we charge ... well ... back on topic, the other question is how do we get it stuck? Do we PM Randy or someone?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:39 pm
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maybe you can do that then--- ^
it was trying to - see i've even used bold text in some places..

i can only pay you in gold stars
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ajinlondon
maybe you can do that then--- ^
it was trying to - see i've even used bold text in some places..

i can only pay you in gold stars
Be happy to if you guys can give me a few days. I have to pack up half my apartment and drive it 1,000 miles tomorrow (moving to Nashville, Tennessee) before flying back up here to repeat with the other half at the end of the month. Completed new FAQs thread should be ready middle of next week, promise (lawyer's promise, that is ). I will PM Randy and see if we can tee up the sticky. In the meantime feel free to chip in other suggestions, y'all (got to get the lingo going).
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 3:58 pm
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i will search the other threads for oft asked q's
when you pm randy i think that the FAQ should be a locked sticky - most other stickys get so loooong and boring that it seems they dont really end up being of any use.. so if we/ the rest of us - can get it all done first time it would be better.. but thats just me..
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