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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:12 am
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A big shout out to you. Thank you for sharing!
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by R2
Japan and Hong Kong (and I'm sure there are others) are jurisdictions where the fuel surcharges are government-regulated so the airlines are simply not allowed to add ridiculous surcharges for flights originating there.
Japan sadly lifted or mostly lifted their restriction on fuel surcharges and both JL and NH have gone back to fairly substantial ones now on normal tickets (as has AA and I'm sure many others).

Originally Posted by allset2travel
Thanks.

You are right about avoiding QF due to high YR/YR and bad call center agents!
On the tools, I CAN NOT get it to price due to (before even putting in flight selection and dates) red flag of "More than 2 stops in continent of origin is not allowed". I knew that.

My last resort is to call AA with an EF validated itinerary and see if AA can PRICE it and TICKET it. I was wondering if anyone here had success with AA on an ex-CAI itinerary.
AA apparently won't ticket ex-CAI anymore either. Options are fairly limited for the time being. I'd honestly go with @earnestnywang's suggestion of looking for a Sabre agent that can ticket on QR stock.

But the last time I priced an ex-CAI, the YQ / YR was quite a bit higher than ex-TYO so even with the much lower base price the actual total difference was negligible, especially after positioning to CAI for it.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 5:09 am
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Great stuff folks thank you. But in the scheme of things, spending a lot of time trying to avoid those surcharges may be beyond my ability at this point. And I don't have a travel agent (never found them to know more than me). I think I am just going to have to suck it up. At least now I know what's causing it.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
Japan sadly lifted or mostly lifted their restriction on fuel surcharges and both JL and NH have gone back to fairly substantial ones now on normal tickets (as has AA and I'm sure many others).



AA apparently won't ticket ex-CAI anymore either. Options are fairly limited for the time being. I'd honestly go with @earnestnywang's suggestion of looking for a Sabre agent that can ticket on QR stock.

But the last time I priced an ex-CAI, the YQ / YR was quite a bit higher than ex-TYO so even with the much lower base price the actual total difference was negligible, especially after positioning to CAI for it.
Good suggestion.
Anyone knows of such an agent, please PM me.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
AA apparently won't ticket ex-CAI anymore either. Options are fairly limited for the time being. I'd honestly go with @earnestnywang's suggestion of looking for a Sabre agent that can ticket on QR stock.
For you guys' reference, QR uses USD for the base fare ex-CAI, instead of EGP, so the base fare is somewhat higher when the 1st inter-TC segment is on QR (which, I believe, is QR's requirement for TAs to use QR's plate). For example, if you compare the fares filed by RJ and QR below (converted to EGP):
Code:
FQCAICAI-QR-RJBD
CAI-CAI       SHOP         FRI 07JUL23                     EGP
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
MULTIPLE SELLING CURRENCIES CONVERTED TO EGP USING CURRENT BSR 
**     CAICAI.RW       07JUL23          MPM 
   V  FARE BASIS  AP FARE-OW    FARE-RT CX BK   SEASON  MINMAX
  1    DONE3                 130000.00 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
  2    DGLOB34               141000.00 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
  3    DONE4                 141000.00 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
  4    DONE5                 145000.00 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
  5    DONE3                 148389.00*QR D   ---      -/12M 
  6    DGLOB34               161037.00*QR D   ---      -/12M 
  7    DONE4                 161037.00*QR D   ---      -/12M 
  8    DONE6                 165000.00 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
  9    DONE5                 165665.00*QR D   ---      -/12M 
 10    DONE6                 188494.00*QR D   ---      -/12M
BTW, I'm Ernest, not Earnest
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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 11:23 pm
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BTW, I'm Ernest, not Earnest
My bad. Sorry about that!
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 7:22 am
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