circle pacific - official mileage calculation
May 6, 2019 | 9:41 am
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circle pacific - official mileage calculation
tried to search but couldn't find a discussion on this before...
any easy way to find the most authoritative answer to the total flight distances that's used in deciding 22k vs 26k? because, I tried the following itinerary, in all mileage calculators I found online, it's like ~15-20 miles below 22k...but my agent said it's actually 22,012.
HKG-NRT-LAX-SEA-PHX-TUS-LAX-SYD-HKG
I'm ok to change it a bit to fit under 22k but just because my agent does not always have the right answers to such more tricky FFP/airline questions...just want to make sure they're indeed correct. I'm ok if the official / authoritative distances used are somewhat different, but just want to see if there's a way for me to double check myself (besides calling up the airlines which might not be straightforward in finding the right ones who can answer the question etc).
thanks a lot !!
any easy way to find the most authoritative answer to the total flight distances that's used in deciding 22k vs 26k? because, I tried the following itinerary, in all mileage calculators I found online, it's like ~15-20 miles below 22k...but my agent said it's actually 22,012.
HKG-NRT-LAX-SEA-PHX-TUS-LAX-SYD-HKG
I'm ok to change it a bit to fit under 22k but just because my agent does not always have the right answers to such more tricky FFP/airline questions...just want to make sure they're indeed correct. I'm ok if the official / authoritative distances used are somewhat different, but just want to see if there's a way for me to double check myself (besides calling up the airlines which might not be straightforward in finding the right ones who can answer the question etc).
thanks a lot !!
May 6, 2019 | 9:57 am
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tried to search but couldn't find a discussion on this before...
any easy way to find the most authoritative answer to the total flight distances that's used in deciding 22k vs 26k? because, I tried the following itinerary, in all mileage calculators I found online, it's like ~15-20 miles below 22k...but my agent said it's actually 22,012.
HKG-NRT-LAX-SEA-PHX-TUS-LAX-SYD-HKG
I'm ok to change it a bit to fit under 22k but just because my agent does not always have the right answers to such more tricky FFP/airline questions...just want to make sure they're indeed correct. I'm ok if the official / authoritative distances used are somewhat different, but just want to see if there's a way for me to double check myself (besides calling up the airlines which might not be straightforward in finding the right ones who can answer the question etc).
thanks a lot !!
any easy way to find the most authoritative answer to the total flight distances that's used in deciding 22k vs 26k? because, I tried the following itinerary, in all mileage calculators I found online, it's like ~15-20 miles below 22k...but my agent said it's actually 22,012.
HKG-NRT-LAX-SEA-PHX-TUS-LAX-SYD-HKG
I'm ok to change it a bit to fit under 22k but just because my agent does not always have the right answers to such more tricky FFP/airline questions...just want to make sure they're indeed correct. I'm ok if the official / authoritative distances used are somewhat different, but just want to see if there's a way for me to double check myself (besides calling up the airlines which might not be straightforward in finding the right ones who can answer the question etc).
thanks a lot !!
Your agent is right.
From ExpertFlyer:
CTY GI TPM CUM MPM EMS DED LAST NEXT 25M
HKG 3
1. TYO 3 EH 1823 1823 2187 0M 0 0 364 2733
2. LAX 1 PA 5474 7297 8716 0M 0 0 1419 10895
3. SEA 1 PA 956 8253 7786 10M 0 77 311 9732
4. PHX 1 PA 1108 9361 9061 5M 0 300 153 11326
5. TUS 1 PA 110 9471 9193 5M 0 278 181 11491
6. LAX 1 PA 429 9900 8716 15M 0 312 123 10895
7. SYD 3 - 7517 17417 ****
8. HKG 3 - 4595 22012 ****
HKG 3
1. TYO 3 EH 1823 1823 2187 0M 0 0 364 2733
2. LAX 1 PA 5474 7297 8716 0M 0 0 1419 10895
3. SEA 1 PA 956 8253 7786 10M 0 77 311 9732
4. PHX 1 PA 1108 9361 9061 5M 0 300 153 11326
5. TUS 1 PA 110 9471 9193 5M 0 278 181 11491
6. LAX 1 PA 429 9900 8716 15M 0 312 123 10895
7. SYD 3 - 7517 17417 ****
8. HKG 3 - 4595 22012 ****
May 6, 2019 | 10:03 am
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oh thank you so much !! now I know what's the authoritative source I should be using in the future. how come I never thought of ExpertFlyer that I'm in fact using every day... 
May 6, 2019 | 11:42 am
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I think that you would be better off calling the airline which is issuing your ticket to be certain. I regularly find that EF has different mileage numbers from those on MileCalc.
May 6, 2019 | 5:43 pm
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Because, MileCalc uses Great Circle distance (probably).
EF shows TPM(Ticketed Point Mileage) that is used for air fare calculation.
For example, TPM for TYO-OSA is 280 miles.
This distance is applied for all combinations of TYO-OSA (NRT-ITM, NRT-KIX, HND-ITM, HND-KIX).
Another example is LON-NYC (3457 TPM).
JFK-LHR is 3451, EWR-LGW is 3483 (Great Circle).
EF shows TPM(Ticketed Point Mileage) that is used for air fare calculation.
For example, TPM for TYO-OSA is 280 miles.
This distance is applied for all combinations of TYO-OSA (NRT-ITM, NRT-KIX, HND-ITM, HND-KIX).
Another example is LON-NYC (3457 TPM).
JFK-LHR is 3451, EWR-LGW is 3483 (Great Circle).