D Inventory Available for 2 Segments But Not as Connection
May 9, 2019, 10:25 am
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Yes, I remember CX's way of doing it as well. That was on a printed ATB ticket, which I had to have a major reroute on whilst at HKG. The ticketing people there used to be very good.
May 9, 2019, 10:39 am
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May 9, 2019, 10:46 am
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Back to the OP's predicament: if it hasn't been sorted out already, wouldn't a wait-list request for "D" on the JFK-MIA sector do the trick? Sure, it's insane that it can't be booked in one call, but to get the seat desired on the flight in question, asking (via the wait-list) should be the surest fire way to communicate the request to the revenue management team/algorithm.
May 9, 2019, 8:22 pm
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FWIW, my first J RTW ticket with what would become One World was in 1990 ticketed with BA exBAH. Repeated in 1991 ex DHA with BA. Alas I no longer have access to the full routings or the rules. But I can state I wasn't worried about maximum segments.
But the rules had to have existed at that time.....
Just wandering
Fred
But the rules had to have existed at that time.....
Just wandering
Fred
May 9, 2019, 9:01 pm
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FWIW, my first J RTW ticket with what would become One World was in 1990 ticketed with BA exBAH. Repeated in 1991 ex DHA with BA. Alas I no longer have access to the full routings or the rules. But I can state I wasn't worried about maximum segments.
But the rules had to have existed at that time.....
Just wandering
Fred
But the rules had to have existed at that time.....
Just wandering
Fred
Sorry to stray so off topic but us old folks also tend to ramble
May 10, 2019, 10:20 am
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Those were the days when QF/BA had a strong relationship and their RTW fares would from time to time offer the option at no extra cost on an F fare of flying Concorde transatlantic (did it twice) or cruising across on the QE2 and the BA Executive Club actually had a presence in Australia and offered rewards like dinner for 6 at Rockpool in its heyday - where's the emoji for old man reminiscing
Sorry to stray so off topic but us old folks also tend to ramble
Sorry to stray so off topic but us old folks also tend to ramble
Likewise, apologies for old person reminiscences.
May 10, 2019, 10:42 am
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May 10, 2019, 5:04 pm
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If you're only talking about a way for a reservations agent to request that RM approve a segment that is otherwise unable to be booked, yes, the segments could be waitlisted or simply desired, then the PNR queued to RM, but none of that is a solution, because it can't be ticketed with that segment missing, unless the segment is added as a surface segment, and the ticket would need to be reissued as a re-route if the flight segment gets confirmed. It's also unclear that RM would approve the segments. A better approach is to book the segments with a long enough time in between to break the marriage, or as code-shares if possible (which may only be possible if the ticket is issued by a TA or an airline other than the one that operates the flights in question).
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ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 29 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 25 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
Whether you will find a TA or a system that can ticket it in that state is a different question. Amadeus can handle open sectors on an eticket. Not sure about Sabre.
May 10, 2019, 5:26 pm
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May 15, 2019, 3:10 pm
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Keeping in mind the difference between PNRs (reservations) and tickets, in the old manual days, it was possible to have one ticket that had coupons for flights in different PNRs. An agent would create different PNRs, issue a manual ticket, and update the different PNRs to contain the manual ticket number. I'm not sure how it would be done in today's automated world. Ignoring limited-changes PNRs that are automatically issued due to flights on multiple airlines, code-shares, etc., since those are not germane. It might be possible using low-level SABRE or Amadeus. But it's a theoretical question with no practical application.