Best and worst of One World
#31
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Madrid, Spain & Santiago, Chile
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Originally Posted by the_p0et
Thanks for the tip, but I couldn't find anything on www.aa.com relating to "challenge"...
#32
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
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Originally Posted by the_p0et
We have just purchased a LONE4 ticket and signed up with AAdvantage. Are there any benefits with this ticket or do we fly like everyone else and no entitlement to lounges for Oneworld travelers?
#33
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: ORD
Programs: AA GLD; UA 2P; HHonors GLD; SPG
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Originally Posted by the_p0et
How do I get Oneworld Ruby status and after I reach 25,000 miles can I get the above benefits in other continents during my RTW trip?
#34
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by FlyingToFly
If I remember correctly, as an AA GLD, you are entitled to OW Ruby benefits.
#35
formerly gemini573




Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: LAX, HKG, and BKK
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As far as J class service (overall), here's my list.
CX-BA-LA-AA
Oneworld lounges.
CX-BA-LA-AA-IB
CX-BA-LA-AA
Oneworld lounges.
CX-BA-LA-AA-IB
#36
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by virtualtroy
Time to revive this thread based on travelling every OW carrier bar Air Fungus during the past few months. Of course all my own subjective opinion.
Worst overall experience
LAN - when it goes wrong, it's a disaster. If you don't want to take my word for it, use the search function on this board.
Am sure there are those who will seek to endorse / disagree.
Worst overall experience
LAN - when it goes wrong, it's a disaster. If you don't want to take my word for it, use the search function on this board.
Am sure there are those who will seek to endorse / disagree.
#37
Moderator, OneWorld




Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
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No great expertise here, just observations from our (near complete) RTW in J -
Longhaul J seats: Of those we've been in, QF Dreamtime and Skybed, CX A340 beds, BA NCW, and AA J (F) 763s, the ranking couldn't be easier.
1. QF Skybeds - comfortable, well thought out, 110v power, shoulder space.
2. CX beds - a big drop in points from the Skybeds, but better than the others. The angle and slippery surface complaints are valid.
3. BA NCW - again, a big drop from the first two. Narrow at the shoulders, too short for tall people to stretch (try the fetal position for 11 hours); opposing directions is weird and makes the window seats virtual prisons overnight, plus either I or Ms. 'Loo have had serious mechanical or condition problems with one or another (or both) of our seats 100% of the time. Too clever by far.
4. AA 763 J/F (depending on where you are) - way too narrow but great leg room.
5. QF Dreamtime (743s) - almost as bad as AA F seats on 757s or MD-80s. No, wait, that's not fair to QF. But rather disappointing given the Skybeds.
Service - CX, 'nuff said. QF 2nd, BA 3rd unless Gate Gourmet has decided to make you eat arsenic pretzels instead of lamb chops. AA 4th or better, depending on phases of the moon or something.
Meagre contribution ends.
Longhaul J seats: Of those we've been in, QF Dreamtime and Skybed, CX A340 beds, BA NCW, and AA J (F) 763s, the ranking couldn't be easier.
1. QF Skybeds - comfortable, well thought out, 110v power, shoulder space.
2. CX beds - a big drop in points from the Skybeds, but better than the others. The angle and slippery surface complaints are valid.
3. BA NCW - again, a big drop from the first two. Narrow at the shoulders, too short for tall people to stretch (try the fetal position for 11 hours); opposing directions is weird and makes the window seats virtual prisons overnight, plus either I or Ms. 'Loo have had serious mechanical or condition problems with one or another (or both) of our seats 100% of the time. Too clever by far.
4. AA 763 J/F (depending on where you are) - way too narrow but great leg room.
5. QF Dreamtime (743s) - almost as bad as AA F seats on 757s or MD-80s. No, wait, that's not fair to QF. But rather disappointing given the Skybeds.
Service - CX, 'nuff said. QF 2nd, BA 3rd unless Gate Gourmet has decided to make you eat arsenic pretzels instead of lamb chops. AA 4th or better, depending on phases of the moon or something.
Meagre contribution ends.
#39
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
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Originally Posted by Belgian in Paris
F : CX/BA/QF
J : BA/QF/CX
Y : CX/QF/BA
You never make any mistake by booking one of those 3 ones
J : BA/QF/CX
Y : CX/QF/BA
You never make any mistake by booking one of those 3 ones
J: CX/QF/BA/AY for service
#42
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Join Date: May 2001
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I think Lan's First Class is being underappreciated here. Yes, the seats lack the bells and whistles of CX, QF, BA and some AA 777s, but they are comfortable (to me, they are the most comfortable in terms of the seat, especially the 767s). I find Lan's F food to be the best in Oneworld and closest I've seen to restaurant quality. Service has been outstanding in my experience, with only 5 seats and 2 FAs. I've had a good run of having F to myself. Lan looses points with its lounges (weak in SCL), however.
Cathay is great and, to me, the overall best. My BA F experiences have all been pleasant, so no grounds to complain. Until AA gets Suites installed on all 777s, I cannot reccomend it. Qantas was good on my only F flight with them, but it was only the BKK-SYD leg of the QF 2 and you could tell the service was somewhat scaled-down.
Cathay is great and, to me, the overall best. My BA F experiences have all been pleasant, so no grounds to complain. Until AA gets Suites installed on all 777s, I cannot reccomend it. Qantas was good on my only F flight with them, but it was only the BKK-SYD leg of the QF 2 and you could tell the service was somewhat scaled-down.
#43
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Just a few more thoughts from my AONE5 earlier this year and a subsequent trip. Note, I can only compare the 747s on CX/BA/QF and 777 on AA, did not fly any other aircraft in int'l F. Total of about 11 segments.
For seat comfort I really didn't sense much of a difference between CX/BA/QF, they were all great. AA suites are the best overall seat when you factor in all the bells and whistles (e.g., swivel, work area, drop-down armrests -- which CX has too), but they lack a decent cradle position for relaxing, even though they are just as good as the others in flat position. Though subtract a few points for weak IFE system compared to CX AVOD).
As far as seat layout goes, CX probably wins by virtue of only 12 seats vs. 14 on BA and QF. Then BA probably gets the edge over QF because of additional privacy from the herringbone layout and easier access to overhead bins, though the additional privacy also can mean additional claustrophobia for some. AA is pretty good, but 777 just not as nice as the nosecone of the 747.
For service/food, my experience was CX-QF-BA/AA. BA and AA were more hit-or-miss, a bit more consistently good on QF and very consistently excellent on CX.
For seat comfort I really didn't sense much of a difference between CX/BA/QF, they were all great. AA suites are the best overall seat when you factor in all the bells and whistles (e.g., swivel, work area, drop-down armrests -- which CX has too), but they lack a decent cradle position for relaxing, even though they are just as good as the others in flat position. Though subtract a few points for weak IFE system compared to CX AVOD).
As far as seat layout goes, CX probably wins by virtue of only 12 seats vs. 14 on BA and QF. Then BA probably gets the edge over QF because of additional privacy from the herringbone layout and easier access to overhead bins, though the additional privacy also can mean additional claustrophobia for some. AA is pretty good, but 777 just not as nice as the nosecone of the 747.
For service/food, my experience was CX-QF-BA/AA. BA and AA were more hit-or-miss, a bit more consistently good on QF and very consistently excellent on CX.
#44
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by PresRDC
I think Lan's First Class is being underappreciated here. Yes, the seats lack the bells and whistles of CX, QF, BA and some AA 777s, but they are comfortable (to me, they are the most comfortable in terms of the seat, especially the 767s). I find Lan's F food to be the best in Oneworld and closest I've seen to restaurant quality. Service has been outstanding in my experience, with only 5 seats and 2 FAs.
But then in the South American market there's no competition to speak of unless you pick up the feeder flights on the major routes (eg BA / LH from GRU down to EZE).

