The Rules
May 15, 2001 | 7:13 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Bangkok,Thailand
Posts: 13
The Rules
I have read the latest rules for fares originating out of Australia, yet I find no mention of things like stopovers(except that only 2 stopovers are permitted in continent of origin), # of transits of a city, etc.
Which makes me ask: is there an underlying
base set of rules in addition to the rules for each country.
In particular, would anyone care to comment on
1)stopovers - are these now in fact limited only by the number of sectors? So that if you had a continent that allowed 4 sectors, you could have 5 stopovers?
2)transits - is there some rule that limits the number of transits of a city to two?
3)backtracking - my understanding of backtracking is that it applies only to intercontinental travel and not intracontinental travel, except for specific rules like 1 cross continental flight in North America.
4)why my travel agent says QF is objecting to the following routing on a 6 continent OW RTW originating in Australia, siting problems with backtracking and excessive transits of Miami in the North American part:
PER-AKL
AKL-EZE
EZE-SCL
SCL-LIM-CUZ
surface
LPB-MIA-JFK
JFK-MIA-SJO
surface
PTY-MIA-LHR
...
5) If I changed the routing above to
LPB-MIA-JFK (stopover)
JFK-MIA-SJO (stopover)
SJO-DFW-MEX-MAD
...
could anyone find fault with this?
Which makes me ask: is there an underlying
base set of rules in addition to the rules for each country.
In particular, would anyone care to comment on
1)stopovers - are these now in fact limited only by the number of sectors? So that if you had a continent that allowed 4 sectors, you could have 5 stopovers?
2)transits - is there some rule that limits the number of transits of a city to two?
3)backtracking - my understanding of backtracking is that it applies only to intercontinental travel and not intracontinental travel, except for specific rules like 1 cross continental flight in North America.
4)why my travel agent says QF is objecting to the following routing on a 6 continent OW RTW originating in Australia, siting problems with backtracking and excessive transits of Miami in the North American part:
PER-AKL
AKL-EZE
EZE-SCL
SCL-LIM-CUZ
surface
LPB-MIA-JFK
JFK-MIA-SJO
surface
PTY-MIA-LHR
...
5) If I changed the routing above to
LPB-MIA-JFK (stopover)
JFK-MIA-SJO (stopover)
SJO-DFW-MEX-MAD
...
could anyone find fault with this?
May 16, 2001 | 8:11 am
#2
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,173
radruss,
The AA RTW desk says there is NO limit to the numbers of transfers or stops in a single city as long as it falls within the normal max number of segments within a continent. This is confirmed by Darren's recent post.
However, others have reported that some carriers do impose a 2 transfers per city limit. I really cannot understand where your trip violates any of the new rules as posted by 3554quebec, but, I have not tried to ticket anything under these new rules so I may be in for a suprise.
Perhaps have your travel agent submit the ticket to AA for pricing or call AA yourself.
good luck
rich
May 17, 2001 | 10:01 am
#3
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: HKG/SFO
Programs: CX GR; AA Life GLD, EXP; SPG Life GLD, PLT
Posts: 1,050
Originally posted by RichLond:
The AA RTW desk says there is NO limit to the numbers of transfers or stops in a single city as long as it falls within the normal max number of segments within a continent. This is confirmed by Darren's recent post.
rich
The AA RTW desk says there is NO limit to the numbers of transfers or stops in a single city as long as it falls within the normal max number of segments within a continent. This is confirmed by Darren's recent post.
rich
I do LHR-PRG-LHR-DXB-LHR- (3 Transfers)
HKG-SIN-HKG-SEL-HKG (2 transfers and 1 stopover)
Good Luck!
May 24, 2001 | 2:43 am
#4
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MI, USA
Posts: 154
radruss, As I have posted elsewhere, not all RTW agents are experienced or understand the rules. Please call back and ask someone else and specifically quote the rule as you know and have them check with a supervisor. If you hold firm, they may do research and learn rather than give you misinformation.
May 24, 2001 | 6:33 am
#5
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Orlando,London, Chennai.
Programs: AAdvantage EXP& 2Million miler, Skywards Gold, Delta Gold Medallion, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,598
clouds2cloud
I think your point is very important in most of todays airline booking agents. Quite a number get assigned to you by random order and you have no option except to struggle with their concept of what is allowed and what is not or call again. It is always worth checking again. I even had to change the origin from one country to another to get a better and correct interpretation of rules
I think your point is very important in most of todays airline booking agents. Quite a number get assigned to you by random order and you have no option except to struggle with their concept of what is allowed and what is not or call again. It is always worth checking again. I even had to change the origin from one country to another to get a better and correct interpretation of rules