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jerry a. laska Jan 4, 2017 12:26 pm

I've had a few reissues by CX at HKG without problems. I've waited in the lounge while everything was completed.

allset2travel Jan 4, 2017 8:37 pm

Changing AA sectors: your experience?
 

Originally Posted by christep (Post 27702016)
I do, and my experience at HKG (as a CX Diamond) was pretty good - a couple of fairly major reworks done within a couple of hours each time. But, sadly, that was over 10 years ago, so obviously I have no idea whether they still have that capability at the airport ticket desk.

Thanks. I hope that their service efficiency has not changed since!


Originally Posted by pianoperson (Post 27702092)
I've had several RTW tickets issued by Cathay over the years and have always had prompt and efficient service via phone and email for re-routings.
Given you will be at HKG I imagine that someone there will be able to get it sorted out for you in the time--frame and get hold of the fares folk to sort out the re--calculation for the reissue.
I have called CX in HKG from New Zealand in the past to do re-routing and they've done it within the hour when it was an urgent ie on the same day - change.
Whatever I'm sure and hope for your sake that the experience isn't in any way comprable to mine with BA!
All the best with it

Thank you. Your positive experience with CX calms my nerves quite a bit.
See wingzing’s post. Did you have any AA sector that need to be changed?



Originally Posted by wingzing (Post 27703159)
I have made several changes to CX issued RTW tickets over the phone. Never a problem as long as I don't change AA sectors. Changing AA sectors seems to be a problem for them. I had to wait overnight for the tax calculation. Not sure why, but I was told it was an Amadeus/Sabre problem.

I do have 2 AA sectors involved: 1st is strictly changing from SFO-DFW to SFO-ORD; the 2nd is to change DFW-DOH to ORD-DOH (using AA codeshare from ORD that was NOT available from DFW). Your experience concerns me a bit. Any more specific issues other than Amadeus/Sabre problem? I think the time difference (between HKG and DFW time) may have something to do with it?


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 27704228)
I've had a few reissues by CX at HKG without problems. I've waited in the lounge while everything was completed.

Thanks. I plan to hang out in the Pier First to get it done (??!!)!

BTW, did you change any AA sectors (as mentioned above by wingzing)?

christep Jan 4, 2017 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 27701554)
I will be flying my DONE4 ex-JNB soon, ticketed by CX. I plan to make many date and carrier changes after the FIRST segment (JNB-HKG). I will be transiting in HKG, with about 8 hours airside. I wonder if that is enough time to get everything sorted and ticket re-issued? Like you, I have done all the homework to ensure flights are available, etc.


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 27706607)
Thanks. I plan to hang out in the Pier First to get it done (??!!)!

If I were doing this, I would go landside first - that's where the ticketing desk is and where the people who have some clue will be. CX lounge staff are not ticketing people. Once you've talked to the people at the ticketing desk and they are confident they have all they need to get the job done then they will almost certainly suggest you go to the lounge and wait.

Of course if the flight out of HKG that day is one that needs to be rearranged then you won't be able to transit straight to the lounge because you won't have a boarding pass for the onward flight (unless of course you have one for a different flight!). But I wouldn't recommend checking in for a flight that you want to change just to get a boarding pass. And you'd also have issues with checked bags (if any).

og Jan 5, 2017 9:57 pm

FWIW, I just changed all remaining flights on a BA issued xONEx ticket. The initial phone agent said they were not trained to handle this issue so quickly transferred me. I only changed date / time / flights (not cities or stopover / transfers). Read out what I wanted, the agent phoned back (from India) within about 30 minutes to confirm and clarify a few issues. All seemed well handled. Still awaiting the confirmation email to double check. So far, quite happy.

Dave Noble Jan 5, 2017 10:36 pm

I have just done some date/time changes to flights on a Cairo originating ATW ticket which was issued by Qantas and travel not yet commenced. Took about 5 minutes on the phone to get the flights booked and tickets issued within a few minutes

Would recommned Qantas over AA for ATW tickets in general - can phone up , make booking, get tickets priced and payment taken all in one phone call , with the tickets then arriving within a few minutes

allset2travel Jan 5, 2017 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by christep (Post 27706899)
If I were doing this, I would go landside first - that's where the ticketing desk is and where the people who have some clue will be. CX lounge staff are not ticketing people. Once you've talked to the people at the ticketing desk and they are confident they have all they need to get the job done then they will almost certainly suggest you go to the lounge and wait.

Of course if the flight out of HKG that day is one that needs to be rearranged then you won't be able to transit straight to the lounge because you won't have a boarding pass for the onward flight (unless of course you have one for a different flight!). But I wouldn't recommend checking in for a flight that you want to change just to get a boarding pass. And you'd also have issues with checked bags (if any).

Very good point about going to land-side ticket counter first.
Since I will be air-side upon arrival, I could go straight to the lounge and hand them my changes. The lounge staff probably would send it off to somewhere or recommend land-side assistance.

Once on land-side, I should have no problem getting BP and get back to air-side, since I am not changing my 2nd segment (hence would been given BP).

allset2travel Jan 5, 2017 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 27712979)
I have just done some date/time changes to flights on a Cairo originating ATW ticket which was issued by Qantas and travel not yet commenced. Took about 5 minutes on the phone to get the flights booked and tickets issued within a few minutes

Would recommned Qantas over AA for ATW tickets in general - can phone up , make booking, get tickets priced and payment taken all in one phone call , with the tickets then arriving within a few minutes

Wow! You have yet to fly your first segment and yet able to get ticket re-issued with changes. Did QF re-price your ticket?

Care to share the phone #, or would you accept PM to that effect?

Dave Noble Jan 6, 2017 12:25 am


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 27713112)
Wow! You have yet to fly your first segment and yet able to get ticket re-issued with changes. Did QF re-price your ticket?

Care to share the phone #, or would you accept PM to that effect?

No repricing; since it was a date/time change to a sector other than 1st sector , there is no repricing to be done. Was a straightforward call that lasted about 5 minutes and flights changed with no issue. Few minutes later the new ticket receipt arrived with the new ticket numbers

Just phoned the regular Qantas reservations number , nothing special. Within Australia just cal 13 13 13

allset2travel Jan 6, 2017 12:29 am

Dave,
Thank you!

christep Jan 7, 2017 2:10 am


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 27713099)
Very good point about going to land-side ticket counter first.
Since I will be air-side upon arrival, I could go straight to the lounge and hand them my changes. The lounge staff probably would send it off to somewhere or recommend land-side assistance.

Once on land-side, I should have no problem getting BP and get back to air-side, since I am not changing my 2nd segment (hence would been given BP).

Departures and arrivals are separated at HKG. Once you have gone through transit security to the departures area (where the lounges are) it is not at all trivial to get back landside (and causes CX extra hassle). Since you have 8 hours I would strongly recommend simply going directly to landside on arrival (not through transit security to the departures level), and talking directly to the people at the ticketing desk.

stex Jan 7, 2017 6:55 am

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stex Jan 7, 2017 6:58 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 27718844)
Departures and arrivals are separated at HKG. Once you have gone through transit security to the departures area (where the lounges are) it is not at all trivial to get back landside (and causes CX extra hassle). Since you have 8 hours I would strongly recommend simply going directly to landside on arrival (not through transit security to the departures level), and talking directly to the people at the ticketing desk.

+1

not trivial and likely to be discouraged by CX staff. i attempted a similar scenario at HKG few years ago and was told to go landside first...

allset2travel Jan 7, 2017 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by christep (Post 27718844)
Departures and arrivals are separated at HKG. Once you have gone through transit security to the departures area (where the lounges are) it is not at all trivial to get back landside (and causes CX extra hassle). Since you have 8 hours I would strongly recommend simply going directly to landside on arrival (not through transit security to the departures level), and talking directly to the people at the ticketing desk.

Thank you. I will do as you suggested!
As recently as Dec 29 when AA cancelled HKG-LAX, the Wing Lounge staff had to accompany me from airside to landside to get my replacement flight sorted. You are right that it is no trivial matter.


Originally Posted by stex (Post 27720231)
+1
not trivial and likely to be discouraged by CX staff. i attempted a similar scenario at HKG few years ago and was told to go landside first...

Thanks for sharing your experience.

allset2travel Jan 7, 2017 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 27713223)
No repricing; since it was a date/time change to a sector other than 1st sector , there is no repricing to be done. Was a straightforward call that lasted about 5 minutes and flights changed with no issue. Few minutes later the new ticket receipt arrived with the new ticket numbers

Just phoned the regular Qantas reservations number , nothing special. Within Australia just cal 13 13 13

I sent my changed itinerary to CX (BTW, I am keeping the first 3 segments unchanged) by email, and they said I MUST fly the first segment, otherwise repricing is necessary.
:confused::confused::confused:

What exactly is the written rule about this?

Dave Noble Jan 7, 2017 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 27723158)
I sent my changed itinerary to CX (BTW, I am keeping the first 3 segments unchanged) by email, and they said I MUST fly the first segment, otherwise repricing is necessary.
:confused::confused::confused:

What exactly is the written rule about this?

See the One World Explorer ATW sheet at https://www.oneworld.com/documents/1...9-d346ec820edf


Originally Posted by fare rules
(a) Rebooking/Rerouting

(1) Prior to departure

(a) Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same. If the first flight coupon is being changed, and the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will be charged. If the fare level has decreased since ticket issuance, no refund will apply.

(b) Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction. If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged. If the fare level has decreased since ticket issuance, no refund will apply.

Assuming that the change which you are choosing to make does not involve any routing changes but just date an/or time change to the any coupon from the 2nd onward, should not be an issue


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