Multi city or RTW ticket??
Mar 10, 2016 | 1:09 am
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Multi city or RTW ticket??
So i took the advice that I got on FT. Read alot of stuff on the OW Explorer ticket..etc and Im still alittle lost.
I want to go to 3 places in Feb 2017. San francisco, Hawaii and Sapporo. I will leave from somewhere in Europe..not bothered really..cheaper the better..east or west. When Ive done muliple searches (using Jan as feb isnt available yet) from different cities in Europe and further afield I seem to be still cheaper using multicity option in Google flights. So my question is for fewer destinations..is the explorer pass a waste of time. Sould i just stick with multicity? Is there an obvious advantage using one or the other from ur experience??
I want to go to 3 places in Feb 2017. San francisco, Hawaii and Sapporo. I will leave from somewhere in Europe..not bothered really..cheaper the better..east or west. When Ive done muliple searches (using Jan as feb isnt available yet) from different cities in Europe and further afield I seem to be still cheaper using multicity option in Google flights. So my question is for fewer destinations..is the explorer pass a waste of time. Sould i just stick with multicity? Is there an obvious advantage using one or the other from ur experience??
Mar 10, 2016 | 5:07 am
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Depends a lot on which cabin you want to be flying in...
Start with the exCAI prices for a xONEx and see if you can put together a set of one way cash or reward tickets at a lower price.
Happy wandering
Fred
Start with the exCAI prices for a xONEx and see if you can put together a set of one way cash or reward tickets at a lower price.
Happy wandering
Fred
Mar 10, 2016 | 6:22 am
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Looking to fly in Business. If I decided to start my trip from Cai..do i have to apply for a visa to enter Egypt. Im a uk Citizen? I take border security dont mind folk staying for just one night?
Mar 10, 2016 | 7:51 am
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In the old days of paper tickets I used to get a visa on arrival (as a British Citizen), just crash in the airport for the few hours overnight, and then pick up the new ticket from the BA ticket office when it opened in the morning. In these days of e-tickets I guess in principle you could do a airside transit at CAI without even needing the visa on arrival, although others with more recent experience could advise on that.
Mar 10, 2016 | 8:21 am
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With only three destinations the cost per flight for an RTW is pretty high. The tickets allow up to 16 flights, so with only four or five (as you'd need) the breakeven point with conventional tickets might not be surpassed.
I'd lurk on the "Premium Fare Deals" board - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premium-fare-deals-740/ - to look for deals to California, Japan and/or Hawaii out of Europe. I think it's entirely possible you could put a good itinerary together without jumping through the hoops of what would be a minimal RTW itinerary.
Now if you want to expand your range of destinations and utilize the RTW more efficiently, you've come to the right place.
I'd lurk on the "Premium Fare Deals" board - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premium-fare-deals-740/ - to look for deals to California, Japan and/or Hawaii out of Europe. I think it's entirely possible you could put a good itinerary together without jumping through the hoops of what would be a minimal RTW itinerary.
Now if you want to expand your range of destinations and utilize the RTW more efficiently, you've come to the right place.
Mar 10, 2016 | 8:47 am
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Personally I don't see a RTW being a good choice for only 3 destinations on any alliance unless you are flying C or F ONLY between cities where tickets are incredibly high in general. (TYO, SIN in Asia from major business centers in Europe and US for example). Even then if you learn some creative "tricks" and are not alliance specific then you can game the system and still be well ahead for 3 destinations.
EY, EK, and QR offer a lot of incredible long haul C fares. None are part of my preferred alliance so I personally ignore them, others obviously don't mind.
EY, EK, and QR offer a lot of incredible long haul C fares. None are part of my preferred alliance so I personally ignore them, others obviously don't mind.
Mar 10, 2016 | 10:44 am
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Good advice. Yeah id like to stick to OW carriers. Ive done well flying
ex-dub and ex-txl on long trips to Japan and Hawaii..but never all the way around. The plan was to fly to japan to ski for a week. Then fly to Hawaii (Hnl) for some sun..then over to Bay area to visit inlaws. I can do it the other way too..but didnt really want to back track. Doing this trip
Ex Cai looks to be around 4k in biz..
ex-dub and ex-txl on long trips to Japan and Hawaii..but never all the way around. The plan was to fly to japan to ski for a week. Then fly to Hawaii (Hnl) for some sun..then over to Bay area to visit inlaws. I can do it the other way too..but didnt really want to back track. Doing this trip
Ex Cai looks to be around 4k in biz..
Mar 10, 2016 | 11:52 am
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Then maybe do something of a "master plan" for the next year and see if you could leverage more out of an RTW ticket. If you start in CAI and visit Asia and North America, you could stop over back in the UK and still have a trip within Europe left. Or use some Avios and pop down to Joburg or Cape Town and start from there; a DONE4 is under 3K; you could go CPT-JNB-HKG-CTS-NRT-HNL-LAX-SFO...LHR, stop over at home for months and have two separate trips within Europe to take before returning to Africa.
Mar 11, 2016 | 4:24 am
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Been messing around with the OW engine and come up with the perfect Itinerary DONE4 Ex Oslo from about 4-5k. I thought about Ex Cai and Ex Jnb, for the cheaper fares but I really cant be bothered getting to these places so I'm happy to pay extra from somewhere easier. Only thing that's bugging me is on a D fare the AA flight from HNL-LAX has Econ and First. Annoyingly when I search for flights in D, it dumps me in economy. How do I get it to put/price me in first?
Mar 11, 2016 | 4:53 am
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Been messing around with the OW engine and come up with the perfect Itinerary DONE4 Ex Oslo from about 4-5k. I thought about Ex Cai and Ex Jnb, for the cheaper fares but I really cant be bothered getting to these places so I'm happy to pay extra from somewhere easier. Only thing that's bugging me is on a D fare the AA flight from HNL-LAX has Econ and First. Annoyingly when I search for flights in D, it dumps me in economy. How do I get it to put/price me in first?
The actual rule is:
for AA services within the USA where no Business Class is offered, Business Class passengers may book and travel in First Class (Booking Code "A"), subject to availability. This provision does not apply on any flight where Business Class exists but is unavailable for booking.
Mar 21, 2016 | 1:43 am
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But Qantas does have a Oneworld Classic Reward option
See the points table - https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/fl...rades#oneworld
It is based on return travel, allows up to five stopovers and the number of points required depends on distance travelled and cabin class
IMO, it is very poor value
Mar 21, 2016 | 6:06 am
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You cannot use Qantas points to purchase an ordinary round-the-world ticket (such as a Oneworld Explorer or Global Explorer)
But Qantas does have a Oneworld Classic Reward option
See the points table - https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/fl...rades#oneworld
It is based on return travel, allows up to five stopovers and the number of points required depends on distance travelled and cabin class
IMO, it is very poor value
But Qantas does have a Oneworld Classic Reward option
See the points table - https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/fl...rades#oneworld
It is based on return travel, allows up to five stopovers and the number of points required depends on distance travelled and cabin class
IMO, it is very poor value
Mar 22, 2016 | 11:16 pm
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On domestic AAQ flights with only First and Coach a D fare gives you access to the first cabin (in A class). That the tool only offered you Coach is yet another bug. Should you go ahead and book the ticket, then you can phone the airline that issues it to get upgraded to first on that sector.
The actual rule is:
The actual rule is:
I'm willing to bet that A has no space on the date you are wanting to travel. Check EF to see what the A bucket says....