Permitted xONEx backtracks - does it increase continent count?
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Permitted xONEx backtracks - does it increase continent count?
Does anyone have experience with the allowed backtracks ex Africa on the xONEx fares?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
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Does anyone have experience with the allowed backtracks ex Africa on the xONEx fares?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
Travel between South West Pacific and Europe/Middle East on a single flight number/or by surface eg LON-SYD/MELvv, DXB-SYD/MELvv, DOH-PER/MELvv, is considered travelling via Asia. Continents South West Pacific, Asia and Europe/Middle East must each be counted.
#3
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It's not that rule that I'm trying to clarify. The issue is the backtracks that are allowed in rules 3.2.2 and 3.2.3, namely that Europe/middle east can be visited twice on a xONEx. Does the second stop/transit increase the total continent count by 1?
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Two visits to the same continent still count as one continent. Same is true for your starting / ending continent. It also does not count twice.
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Does anyone have experience with the allowed backtracks ex Africa on the xONEx fares?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
Specifically, I am looking at Africa-Europe-N America-SWP-Africa. While this is a 4 continent fare (confirmed on the one world validator), if a stopover (or transit) is added via middle east (e.g. PER-DOH-JNB instead of SYD-JNB), the validator prices it as a 5 continent fare. Rule 4(e) 3.2.3 states that a backtrack is allowed (provided travel does not include any flown or surface sector between Europe and Middle East) for: Africa-Europe-RTW-Middle East-Africa (or Africa-Middle East-RTW-Europe-Africa). However, they seem to count each of the 2 visits and/or transits in Europe/middle east as continents hence increasing the continents from 4 to 5 (i.e Europe/middle east is counted twice).
Does this seem correct? - any experience with these rules (3.2.2 and 3.2.3) ex-Africa?
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No, the continent count is being raised by one because you're overflying Asia in the process of going between Oz and the Middle East/Europe, not because you're entering Europe twice.

