LONE4 in 2014
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2
LONE4 in 2014
Hi there,
I am just about to take a bit of a career break and thought that travelling RTW could be a fruitful exercise.
I am based out of Australia (Melbourne) and am travelling to Sri Lanka (Colombo) in Dec on a one-way ticket. I have to return to Melbourne in Mar 2014 to sort out some affairs here. I also plan to see parts of Australia that I haven't seen till June/July 2014. After this, I want to explore South America and Europe.
I am keen on starting my miles journey and thought the Oneworld Explorer RTW ticket would be a good starting point. I came up with the following itin by playing around with the online tool:
CMB -(CX)- HKG -(QF)- MEL -(QF)- DRW -(QF)- ADL-(surface)- SYD -(LA)- SCL -(LA)- GRU -(LA)- LIM -(LA)- EZE -(IB)- MAD -(AY)- HEL -(AY)- FCO -(AB)- TXL -(surface)- CDG (or LHR) -(RJ/QR)- AMM (or DOH) -(RJ/QR)- CMB
However the price with fees/taxes comes to about AUD5500. Having heard that an AONE4 (from KRT???) can be obtained for less, I am interested in hearing strategies to reduce the final fare and maybe increasing the number of miles. I am open to anything and my main aim is to cover South America and Europe.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I am just about to take a bit of a career break and thought that travelling RTW could be a fruitful exercise.
I am based out of Australia (Melbourne) and am travelling to Sri Lanka (Colombo) in Dec on a one-way ticket. I have to return to Melbourne in Mar 2014 to sort out some affairs here. I also plan to see parts of Australia that I haven't seen till June/July 2014. After this, I want to explore South America and Europe.
I am keen on starting my miles journey and thought the Oneworld Explorer RTW ticket would be a good starting point. I came up with the following itin by playing around with the online tool:
CMB -(CX)- HKG -(QF)- MEL -(QF)- DRW -(QF)- ADL-(surface)- SYD -(LA)- SCL -(LA)- GRU -(LA)- LIM -(LA)- EZE -(IB)- MAD -(AY)- HEL -(AY)- FCO -(AB)- TXL -(surface)- CDG (or LHR) -(RJ/QR)- AMM (or DOH) -(RJ/QR)- CMB
However the price with fees/taxes comes to about AUD5500. Having heard that an AONE4 (from KRT???) can be obtained for less, I am interested in hearing strategies to reduce the final fare and maybe increasing the number of miles. I am open to anything and my main aim is to cover South America and Europe.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Last edited by yads_oz; Oct 23, 2013 at 11:06 pm
#2
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
The deals on AONEx's out of KRT were removed some time ago. Those fares are now comparable to AONEx's out of first world nations.
When I still got LONE4's out of Australia, they were 3900-4400AUD depending on taxes. Though my last LONE4 was in 2009 (have since been booking DAS13's to TYO or ICN, then starting DONE3s from Japan or South Korea).
When I still got LONE4's out of Australia, they were 3900-4400AUD depending on taxes. Though my last LONE4 was in 2009 (have since been booking DAS13's to TYO or ICN, then starting DONE3s from Japan or South Korea).
#3



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Welcome to FT yads_oz
Generally, there is little difference in LONE base fares around the world
For example the ex-Australia LONE4 fare is lower than the ex-Sri Lanka LONE4 fare (AUD3,899 vs LKR550,000 (~AUD4360))
Currently, the cheapest places to start a premium cabin RTW are Egypt and Sth Africa
Base fare for ex-CAI DONE4 is EGP40,900 (~AUD6,150)
Base fare for ex-JNB DONE5 is ZAR67,880 (~AUD7,190)
Issues with these are:
Generally, there is little difference in LONE base fares around the world
For example the ex-Australia LONE4 fare is lower than the ex-Sri Lanka LONE4 fare (AUD3,899 vs LKR550,000 (~AUD4360))
Currently, the cheapest places to start a premium cabin RTW are Egypt and Sth Africa
Base fare for ex-CAI DONE4 is EGP40,900 (~AUD6,150)
Base fare for ex-JNB DONE5 is ZAR67,880 (~AUD7,190)
Issues with these are:
- positioning flights to/from (they are further from MEL than CMB)
- security situation in Cairo at the moment
- Only two stopovers allowed in continent of origin (and Egypt is part of the Europe/Middle East continent)
- Starting in Africa adds a continent, at extra cost
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2
Thanks for the replies Himeno and pandaperth.
pandaperth - Where do you get the latest pricing list? wandr.me seems to be a bit outdated.
Also in terms of taxes and fuel surcharges are there anything bad in the itin I have created?
pandaperth - Where do you get the latest pricing list? wandr.me seems to be a bit outdated.
Also in terms of taxes and fuel surcharges are there anything bad in the itin I have created?
#5



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
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Also in terms of taxes and fuel surcharges are there anything bad in the itin I have created?
You can check out the fuel surcharges on each segment by using ITA
#6




Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: country Western Australia
Programs: QF WP(LTS) - AA LTG(1MM)
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The prices for the LONEx fares are also less expensive in CAI and JNB albeit not dramatically so. If recall, when I checked earlier this year LONE4 exJNB was about AU$3000 plus taxes/charges. To use that SEAisa and NAmerica would be omitted.
In the end, I decided to use point-to-point fares.
Happy wandering
Fred
In the end, I decided to use point-to-point fares.
Happy wandering
Fred
#7
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Programs: QF, VA, SQ
Posts: 8
Hi
I've been looking at DONE4 fares for April 2014 departure from JNB in the last few days as well.
I looked at Expert Flyer today and it seems the price is 48,000 ZAR (about A$5,100).
Pandaperth, I notice you singled out CAI as the best departure point for DONE4. Am I misinterpreting the information on Expert Flyer?
Thanks
geoffb78
I've been looking at DONE4 fares for April 2014 departure from JNB in the last few days as well.
I looked at Expert Flyer today and it seems the price is 48,000 ZAR (about A$5,100).
Pandaperth, I notice you singled out CAI as the best departure point for DONE4. Am I misinterpreting the information on Expert Flyer?
Thanks
geoffb78
#8



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Hi
I've been looking at DONE4 fares for April 2014 departure from JNB in the last few days as well.
I looked at Expert Flyer today and it seems the price is 48,000 ZAR (about A$5,100).
Pandaperth, I notice you singled out CAI as the best departure point for DONE4. Am I misinterpreting the information on Expert Flyer?
Thanks
geoffb78
I've been looking at DONE4 fares for April 2014 departure from JNB in the last few days as well.
I looked at Expert Flyer today and it seems the price is 48,000 ZAR (about A$5,100).
Pandaperth, I notice you singled out CAI as the best departure point for DONE4. Am I misinterpreting the information on Expert Flyer?
Thanks
geoffb78
48,000 ZAR is the old price for a DONE4
Prices changed back in May '13
see post #13 in this thread oneword-global-explorer-economy-sale
Which airline did you specify in expertflyer?
#9
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Programs: QF, VA, SQ
Posts: 8
Hi Pandaperth
I didn't specify an airline when searching, however the price I mentioned was associated with AY. The same price applied to DGLOB34 (which I assume also changed in May 2013).
Presumably an oversight by AY?
I'll check the link you included above now.
Thanks
Geoff.
I didn't specify an airline when searching, however the price I mentioned was associated with AY. The same price applied to DGLOB34 (which I assume also changed in May 2013).
Presumably an oversight by AY?
I'll check the link you included above now.
Thanks
Geoff.
#10




Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 7,017
Hi Pandaperth
I didn't specify an airline when searching, however the price I mentioned was associated with AY. The same price applied to DGLOB34 (which I assume also changed in May 2013).
Presumably an oversight by AY?
I'll check the link you included above now.
Thanks
Geoff.
I didn't specify an airline when searching, however the price I mentioned was associated with AY. The same price applied to DGLOB34 (which I assume also changed in May 2013).
Presumably an oversight by AY?
I'll check the link you included above now.
Thanks
Geoff.
#11




Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 7,017
The prices for the LONEx fares are also less expensive in CAI and JNB albeit not dramatically so. If recall, when I checked earlier this year LONE4 exJNB was about AU$3000 plus taxes/charges. To use that SEAisa and NAmerica would be omitted.
In the end, I decided to use point-to-point fares.
Happy wandering
Fred
In the end, I decided to use point-to-point fares.
Happy wandering
Fred
Code:
LONE4 AA L Round-Trip 2365.00(AUD)

