New Oneworld RTW Booking Engine?
#4
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
I got in with a different browser. It's .... different. Not quite as intuitive as the old version.
Just tried to price a saved trip - one which got ticketed a couple of months ago and it said "We have encountered an unknown error. Please contact customer service to book this itinerary."
Put in a new test itinerary (with an AA coded NRT-BOS to start). It priced and went through to the AA booking page (which appears to have had a refresh as well), but I didn't go past that.
Just tried to price a saved trip - one which got ticketed a couple of months ago and it said "We have encountered an unknown error. Please contact customer service to book this itinerary."
Put in a new test itinerary (with an AA coded NRT-BOS to start). It priced and went through to the AA booking page (which appears to have had a refresh as well), but I didn't go past that.
#5
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 816
Yes, definitely new, and it works quite rapidly. A couple of things I noticed on a quick look:
1) On the pricing page, there is a button to download your itinerary as pdf, complete with tax/fee breakdown.
2) There is also a link to a useful amadeus page which shows baggage details for all airlines:
https://bags.amadeus.com/
It's not specific to your itinerary but it's a tool I haven't seen before and could be quite useful.
Happy Travels.
1) On the pricing page, there is a button to download your itinerary as pdf, complete with tax/fee breakdown.
2) There is also a link to a useful amadeus page which shows baggage details for all airlines:
https://bags.amadeus.com/
It's not specific to your itinerary but it's a tool I haven't seen before and could be quite useful.
Happy Travels.
#6
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 12,525
I did an ex-AMM dummy booking and took it all the way to the credit card screen, which is farther than I've been able to get previously, due to the well-known RJ - AA interface bug.
I'm going to make this thread "sticky" temporarily while the updated tool is put through its paces by FT members. Please report your experiences here so others can benefit.
Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator
I'm going to make this thread "sticky" temporarily while the updated tool is put through its paces by FT members. Please report your experiences here so others can benefit.
Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator
#7
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 816
Of course, the whole thing is moot now since the ex-AMM prices went through the roof. Or reverted to reality, depending on your point of view!
Happy Travels.
#10




Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 7,021
EDIT: Yes, it is YQ/YR related as I can cut it by using different carriers (e.g. CX instead of MH).
Last edited by skunker; Sep 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm
#12
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London, UK
Programs: AA 2MM - PLT, BA GGL, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,221
This new tool is pathetic. It applies rules on the itinerary (1st) page that can only be addressed after you add the flights. For example if you want to do a second transit through LON to finish an ex JNB ticket in NBO you can't. The 'only one transit through continent' rule kicks in and prevents you from progressing to the pages where you add the flights. The error even states that you must change your routing or flights. Oh really, how can I change the flights if I can't get to the flights page?
Well thought out this tool of a tool
#13



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Not any more.
This new tool is pathetic. It applies rules on the itinerary (1st) page that can only be addressed after you add the flights. For example if you want to do a second transit through LON to finish an ex JNB ticket in NBO you can't. The 'only one transit through continent' rule kicks in and prevents you from progressing to the pages where you add the flights. The error even states that you must change your routing or flights. Oh really, how can I change the flights if I can't get to the flights page?
Well thought out this tool of a tool
This new tool is pathetic. It applies rules on the itinerary (1st) page that can only be addressed after you add the flights. For example if you want to do a second transit through LON to finish an ex JNB ticket in NBO you can't. The 'only one transit through continent' rule kicks in and prevents you from progressing to the pages where you add the flights. The error even states that you must change your routing or flights. Oh really, how can I change the flights if I can't get to the flights page?
Well thought out this tool of a tool


I've been playing with the new tool on and off over the last few weeks
and one thing I specifically tried was the transit through London - and it worked
My itinerary started from Europe/Middle East and the final segments were ...HKG-xLHR-NBO,JNB-oLHR-MCT. It priced up fine
I just now plugged in a simple ex-SA itinerary (CPT-oLHR-GIG-SCL-SYD-xLHR-NBO) and it also priced up fine. Didn't give any error messages at all.
What is the itinerary you're trying to get to work?
Edited to add:
Just tried an Eastbound itinerary (CPT-oLHR-SYD-LAX-xLHR-NBO)
The tool gave me a warning message about the second entry to Europe
but I just ignored it and proceeded to the Choose Flights page
on that page it was telling me to delete the second London stop and re-route, which again I ignored and once I selected flights such that the LAX-LHR-NBO resulting in <24hrs in London, the error message went away
SO - the tool allows you to book the itinerary, but the "error" messages appear too early - before you've chosen flights that result in there being no error. Perhaps they should be "warning" messages
Actually - playing some, they are warnings - yellow triangles with an exclamation mark; rule violations are red triangles
Last edited by pandaperth; Sep 23, 2013 at 3:28 am
#14
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London, UK
Programs: AA 2MM - PLT, BA GGL, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,221

I've been playing with the new tool on and off over the last few weeks
and one thing I specifically tried was the transit through London - and it worked
My itinerary started from Europe/Middle East and the final segments were ...HKG-xLHR-NBO,JNB-oLHR-MCT. It priced up fine
I just now plugged in a simple ex-SA itinerary (CPT-oLHR-GIG-SCL-SYD-xLHR-NBO) and it also priced up fine. Didn't give any error messages at all.
What is the itinerary you're trying to get to work?
Edited to add:
Just tried an Eastbound itinerary (CPT-oLHR-SYD-LAX-xLHR-NBO)
The tool gave me a warning message about the second entry to Europe
but I just ignored it and proceeded to the Choose Flights page
on that page it was telling me to delete the second London stop and re-route, which again I ignored and once I selected flights such that the LAX-LHR-NBO resulting in <24hrs in London, the error message went away
SO - the tool allows you to book the itinerary, but the "error" messages appear too early - before you've chosen flights that result in there being no error. Perhaps they should be "warning" messages
Actually - playing some, they are warnings - yellow triangles with an exclamation mark; rule violations are red triangles
#15
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London, UK
Programs: AA 2MM - PLT, BA GGL, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,221
I just figured out the quirks of this. I was modifying an existing save itinerary and the red triangle stopped me from moving forward when selecting what would be a transit in LON.
When I entered the entire itinerary from scratch it showed a yellow triangle on the second LON and allowed me to proceed to select the flights.
So it seems if you already have some flights in the itin it then makes the warning an error. So it is still wrong but there is a work around.
I also notice if you have an existing booking with a start date within the next 7 days it errors on that first sector and again you can't change the flight.
You need to remove the first sector and add it back in order to proceed to the flight selection page.
I really don't know what was wrong with the way it worked before where you could select flight and routing on the same page.
When I entered the entire itinerary from scratch it showed a yellow triangle on the second LON and allowed me to proceed to select the flights.
So it seems if you already have some flights in the itin it then makes the warning an error. So it is still wrong but there is a work around.
I also notice if you have an existing booking with a start date within the next 7 days it errors on that first sector and again you can't change the flight.

You need to remove the first sector and add it back in order to proceed to the flight selection page.
I really don't know what was wrong with the way it worked before where you could select flight and routing on the same page.
Last edited by Moomba; Sep 29, 2013 at 12:29 pm


