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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 9:14 am
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Could someone provide me current pricing for xONEX ex-BUD?

We are likely to be purchasing LONE's (3,4,5) but I would appreciate DONE pricing too. We were planning to ex-JNB but notice pricing from Budapest was favourable at one point and we will be in Budapest prior to starting our RTW tickets. I had found a positioning flight from BUD-JNB for about $500 but we had an extra segment left.

Thanks in advance - Kevin
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Could someone provide me current pricing for xONEX ex-BUD?

We are likely to be purchasing LONE's (3,4,5) but I would appreciate DONE pricing too. We were planning to ex-JNB but notice pricing from Budapest was favourable at one point and we will be in Budapest prior to starting our RTW tickets. I had found a positioning flight from BUD-JNB for about $500 but we had an extra segment left.

Thanks in advance - Kevin
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Fare Information Search:

Departing BUD on 03/19/13 for BUD
Returning on 12/17/13
Flying AA  
Purchasing at BUD
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
LCIRAT17    AA       L        Round-Trip  2159.00 (USD)  E                                      
LGLOB26     AA       L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE3       AA       L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LCIRAT21    AA       L        Round-Trip  2654.00 (USD)  E                                      
LCIRAT25    AA       L        Round-Trip  3148.00 (USD)  E                                      
LGLOB29     AA       L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE4       AA       L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE5       AA       L        Round-Trip  3734.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB34     AA       L        Round-Trip  3735.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB39     AA       L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE6       AA       L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
DCIRAT17    AA       D        Round-Trip  5932.00 (USD)  B                                      
DCIRAT21    AA       D        Round-Trip  6882.00 (USD)  B                                      
DONE3       AA       D        Round-Trip  6883.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DCIRAT25    AA       D        Round-Trip  7831.00 (USD)  B                                      
DGLOB34     AA       D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE4       AA       D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE5       AA       D        Round-Trip  9085.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
ACIRAT17    AA       A        Round-Trip  9760.00 (USD)  F                                      
DONE6       AA       D        Round-Trip  10187.00 (USD) B                             -- / 12M 
ACIRAT21    AA       A        Round-Trip  11060.00 (USD) F                                      
ACIRAT25    AA       A        Round-Trip  12314.00 (USD) F                                      
AONE3       AA       A        Round-Trip  12527.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AGLOB34     AA       A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE4       AA       A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE5       AA       A        Round-Trip  15785.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE6       AA       A        Round-Trip  17850.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M

Expertflyer.com and other sources can give you the pricing information that you seek both in this thread and in:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 9:50 am
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Thanks Jerry - Very Helpful!!

Could someone post the same chart for JNB?? This will help me compare our two options. It looks like BUD might be better as it is easier to avoid BA and QX surcharges.

Kevin

Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
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Code:
Fare Information Search:

Departing BUD on 03/19/13 for BUD
Returning on 12/17/13
Flying AA  
Purchasing at BUD
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
LCIRAT17    AA       L        Round-Trip  2159.00 (USD)  E                                      
LGLOB26     AA       L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE3       AA       L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LCIRAT21    AA       L        Round-Trip  2654.00 (USD)  E                                      
LCIRAT25    AA       L        Round-Trip  3148.00 (USD)  E                                      
LGLOB29     AA       L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE4       AA       L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE5       AA       L        Round-Trip  3734.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB34     AA       L        Round-Trip  3735.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB39     AA       L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE6       AA       L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
DCIRAT17    AA       D        Round-Trip  5932.00 (USD)  B                                      
DCIRAT21    AA       D        Round-Trip  6882.00 (USD)  B                                      
DONE3       AA       D        Round-Trip  6883.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DCIRAT25    AA       D        Round-Trip  7831.00 (USD)  B                                      
DGLOB34     AA       D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE4       AA       D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE5       AA       D        Round-Trip  9085.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
ACIRAT17    AA       A        Round-Trip  9760.00 (USD)  F                                      
DONE6       AA       D        Round-Trip  10187.00 (USD) B                             -- / 12M 
ACIRAT21    AA       A        Round-Trip  11060.00 (USD) F                                      
ACIRAT25    AA       A        Round-Trip  12314.00 (USD) F                                      
AONE3       AA       A        Round-Trip  12527.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AGLOB34     AA       A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE4       AA       A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE5       AA       A        Round-Trip  15785.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE6       AA       A        Round-Trip  17850.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M

Expertflyer.com and other sources can give you the pricing information that you seek both in this thread and in:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Could someone post the same chart for JNB?? This will help me compare our two options. It looks like BUD might be better as it is easier to avoid BA and QX surcharges.

Kevin
Expertflyer.com is a business that provides a service that many FTers find invaluable. I don't mind posting info from their site occasionally but repeated requests seem to me to be pushing it. They used to have free limited subscriptions, why don't you take a look?

Himeno also gave you pricing for an LONE4 and DONE4 ex-JNB in this post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20009341-post6.html
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Yes I know I have pricing for LONE4 and DONE4 from JNB; however, we are now considering 3 continents instead of 4 with the option to visit the 4th/5th continet outside of the OneWorld ticket because of the 16 segment limitation. Last time we had 20 or 21 segments. We may even use a combination of a LONEx + DONEx tickets.

A chart like the one you provided (I assume this came from expertflyer.com) is all that we really need from JNB in order to solidify our options. I just took a quick look at expert flyer and don't think I need to become fluent with it for this upcoming trip.

Between ITS, mileagemonkey, wandr site, and Flyertalk, I think I would have enough info to work things out. I appreciate the BUD pricing though.

Kevin

Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
Expertflyer.com is a business that provides a service that many FTers find invaluable. I don't mind posting info from their site occasionally but repeated requests seem to me to be pushing it. They used to have free limited subscriptions, why don't you take a look?

Himeno also gave you pricing for an LONE4 and DONE4 ex-JNB in this post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20009341-post6.html
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Yes I know I have pricing for LONE4 and DONE4 from JNB; however, we are now considering 3 continents instead of 4 with the option to visit the 4th/5th continet outside of the OneWorld ticket because of the 16 segment limitation. Last time we had 20 or 21 segments. We may even use a combination of a LONEx + DONEx tickets.

A chart like the one you provided (I assume this came from expertflyer.com) is all that we really need from JNB in order to solidify our options. I just took a quick look at expert flyer and don't think I need to become fluent with it for this upcoming trip.

Between ITS, mileagemonkey, wandr site, and Flyertalk, I think I would have enough info to work things out. I appreciate the BUD pricing though.

Kevin
How exactly do you intend to do a LONE3 or DONE3 starting in South Africa?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 2:18 pm
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Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin


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How exactly do you intend to do a LONE3 or DONE3 starting in South Africa?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Could someone post the same chart for JNB??
There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.3/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
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JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
RTW  01 Apr 2013 | 15 Apr 2013 | All

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA         JNB     JNB      2254   USD                      LONEWC3
BA         JNB     JNB      2507   USD                      LONEWC4
BA         JNB     JNB      2507   USD                      LONE4
BA         JNB     JNB      2507   USD                      LGLOB29
BA         JNB     JNB      2876   USD                      LONE5
BA         JNB     JNB      2876   USD                      LGLOB34
BA         JNB     JNB      3382   USD                      LONE6
BA         JNB     JNB      3382   USD                      LGLOB39
BA         JNB     JNB      5003   USD                      DONEWC3
BA         JNB     JNB      5521   USD                      DONEWC4
BA         JNB     JNB      5521   USD                      DONE4
BA         JNB     JNB      5521   USD                      DGLOB34
BA         JNB     JNB      6349   USD                      DONE5
BA         JNB     JNB      7465   USD                      DONE6
BA         JNB     JNB      7591   USD                      AONEWC3
BA         JNB     JNB      8385   USD                      AONEWC4
BA         JNB     JNB      8385   USD                      AONE4
BA         JNB     JNB      8385   USD                      AGLOB34
BA         JNB     JNB      9639   USD                      AONE5
BA         JNB     JNB     11307   USD                      AONE6
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin
Nothing sarcastic about it. I was wondering how you were planning an LONE3 or DONE3 ex-JNB, as far as I know it isn't possible from South Africa. An XONE3 from BUD (or other EUR start), Asia, or NA is possible.
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Originally Posted by Misnerfamily
Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin
Until such time as there is a oneworld flight crossing the South Atlantic, it is not possible to do an 3 continent RTW out of the southern hemisphere.
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Until such time as there is a oneworld flight crossing the South Atlantic, it is not possible to do an 3 continent RTW out of the southern hemisphere.
Or until non-stop flights SWP-Middle East are reconised in the ticket rules as not being via Asia
(QF's soon to start MEL/SYD-DXB (and on to LHR) and when QR joins its PER/MEL-DOH flights
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But you can do an xONE3 originating at BUD (or anywhere in Europe).
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But you can do an xONE3 originating at BUD (or anywhere in Europe).
Yes, you are correct
Northern hemisphere xONE3s have always been possible
But it is not currently possible to have an xONE3 that includes any of the Southern hemisphere continents, no matter where it originates
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Or until non-stop flights SWP-Middle East are reconised in the ticket rules as not being via Asia
(QF's soon to start MEL/SYD-DXB (and on to LHR) and when QR joins its PER/MEL-DOH flights
Which would still prevent xONE3s using Africa.

Provided the reroute of QF1/2/9/10 gets recognised as SWP-EU, you could do SWP-EU-NA/SA-SWP as a xONE3, but any use of Africa would result in an xONE4. Also couldn't use Asia on an xONE3 with SWP (unless AA restarts India flights and said flights are labeled as transatlantic)

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Originally Posted by Himeno
Which would still prevent xONE3s using Africa.
Yes, you are correct
If Africa is in the itinerary, then Europe has to be as well (because there are no flights from Africa to either Nth or Sth America). That means both continents in TC2 are in, then you have to add in at least one from each of TC1 and TC3 - makes a total of at least 4 continents required.
Now if MH had not dropped its JNB-EZE flight....
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