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Misnerfamily Jan 21, 2013 9:14 am

Pricing Question
 
Could someone provide me current pricing for xONEX ex-BUD?

We are likely to be purchasing LONE's (3,4,5) but I would appreciate DONE pricing too. We were planning to ex-JNB but notice pricing from Budapest was favourable at one point and we will be in Budapest prior to starting our RTW tickets. I had found a positioning flight from BUD-JNB for about $500 but we had an extra segment left.

Thanks in advance - Kevin:)

jerry a. laska Jan 21, 2013 9:31 am


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20093235)
Could someone provide me current pricing for xONEX ex-BUD?

We are likely to be purchasing LONE's (3,4,5) but I would appreciate DONE pricing too. We were planning to ex-JNB but notice pricing from Budapest was favourable at one point and we will be in Budapest prior to starting our RTW tickets. I had found a positioning flight from BUD-JNB for about $500 but we had an extra segment left.

Thanks in advance - Kevin:)

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing BUD on 03/19/13 for BUD
Returning on 12/17/13
Flying AA 
Purchasing at BUD
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
LCIRAT17    AA      L        Round-Trip  2159.00 (USD)  E                                     
LGLOB26    AA      L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE3      AA      L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LCIRAT21    AA      L        Round-Trip  2654.00 (USD)  E                                     
LCIRAT25    AA      L        Round-Trip  3148.00 (USD)  E                                     
LGLOB29    AA      L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      AA      L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      AA      L        Round-Trip  3734.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    AA      L        Round-Trip  3735.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    AA      L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      AA      L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
DCIRAT17    AA      D        Round-Trip  5932.00 (USD)  B                                     
DCIRAT21    AA      D        Round-Trip  6882.00 (USD)  B                                     
DONE3      AA      D        Round-Trip  6883.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DCIRAT25    AA      D        Round-Trip  7831.00 (USD)  B                                     
DGLOB34    AA      D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      AA      D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      AA      D        Round-Trip  9085.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
ACIRAT17    AA      A        Round-Trip  9760.00 (USD)  F                                     
DONE6      AA      D        Round-Trip  10187.00 (USD) B                            -- / 12M
ACIRAT21    AA      A        Round-Trip  11060.00 (USD) F                                     
ACIRAT25    AA      A        Round-Trip  12314.00 (USD) F                                     
AONE3      AA      A        Round-Trip  12527.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    AA      A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      AA      A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      AA      A        Round-Trip  15785.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      AA      A        Round-Trip  17850.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M


Expertflyer.com and other sources can give you the pricing information that you seek both in this thread and in:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html

Misnerfamily Jan 21, 2013 9:50 am

Thanks Jerry - Very Helpful!!
 
Could someone post the same chart for JNB?? This will help me compare our two options. It looks like BUD might be better as it is easier to avoid BA and QX surcharges.

Kevin


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 20093336)
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Fare Information Search:

Departing BUD on 03/19/13 for BUD
Returning on 12/17/13
Flying AA 
Purchasing at BUD
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
LCIRAT17    AA      L        Round-Trip  2159.00 (USD)  E                                     
LGLOB26    AA      L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE3      AA      L        Round-Trip  2635.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LCIRAT21    AA      L        Round-Trip  2654.00 (USD)  E                                     
LCIRAT25    AA      L        Round-Trip  3148.00 (USD)  E                                     
LGLOB29    AA      L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      AA      L        Round-Trip  3149.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      AA      L        Round-Trip  3734.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    AA      L        Round-Trip  3735.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    AA      L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      AA      L        Round-Trip  4376.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
DCIRAT17    AA      D        Round-Trip  5932.00 (USD)  B                                     
DCIRAT21    AA      D        Round-Trip  6882.00 (USD)  B                                     
DONE3      AA      D        Round-Trip  6883.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DCIRAT25    AA      D        Round-Trip  7831.00 (USD)  B                                     
DGLOB34    AA      D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      AA      D        Round-Trip  7984.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      AA      D        Round-Trip  9085.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
ACIRAT17    AA      A        Round-Trip  9760.00 (USD)  F                                     
DONE6      AA      D        Round-Trip  10187.00 (USD) B                            -- / 12M
ACIRAT21    AA      A        Round-Trip  11060.00 (USD) F                                     
ACIRAT25    AA      A        Round-Trip  12314.00 (USD) F                                     
AONE3      AA      A        Round-Trip  12527.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    AA      A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      AA      A        Round-Trip  14174.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      AA      A        Round-Trip  15785.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      AA      A        Round-Trip  17850.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M


Expertflyer.com and other sources can give you the pricing information that you seek both in this thread and in:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html


jerry a. laska Jan 21, 2013 9:57 am


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20093460)
Could someone post the same chart for JNB?? This will help me compare our two options. It looks like BUD might be better as it is easier to avoid BA and QX surcharges.

Kevin

Expertflyer.com is a business that provides a service that many FTers find invaluable. I don't mind posting info from their site occasionally but repeated requests seem to me to be pushing it. They used to have free limited subscriptions, why don't you take a look?

Himeno also gave you pricing for an LONE4 and DONE4 ex-JNB in this post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20009341-post6.html

Misnerfamily Jan 21, 2013 11:02 am

Yes I know I have pricing for LONE4 and DONE4 from JNB; however, we are now considering 3 continents instead of 4 with the option to visit the 4th/5th continet outside of the OneWorld ticket because of the 16 segment limitation. Last time we had 20 or 21 segments. We may even use a combination of a LONEx + DONEx tickets.

A chart like the one you provided (I assume this came from expertflyer.com) is all that we really need from JNB in order to solidify our options. I just took a quick look at expert flyer and don't think I need to become fluent with it for this upcoming trip.

Between ITS, mileagemonkey, wandr site, and Flyertalk, I think I would have enough info to work things out. I appreciate the BUD pricing though.

Kevin


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 20093514)
Expertflyer.com is a business that provides a service that many FTers find invaluable. I don't mind posting info from their site occasionally but repeated requests seem to me to be pushing it. They used to have free limited subscriptions, why don't you take a look?

Himeno also gave you pricing for an LONE4 and DONE4 ex-JNB in this post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20009341-post6.html


jerry a. laska Jan 21, 2013 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20093924)
Yes I know I have pricing for LONE4 and DONE4 from JNB; however, we are now considering 3 continents instead of 4 with the option to visit the 4th/5th continet outside of the OneWorld ticket because of the 16 segment limitation. Last time we had 20 or 21 segments. We may even use a combination of a LONEx + DONEx tickets.

A chart like the one you provided (I assume this came from expertflyer.com) is all that we really need from JNB in order to solidify our options. I just took a quick look at expert flyer and don't think I need to become fluent with it for this upcoming trip.

Between ITS, mileagemonkey, wandr site, and Flyertalk, I think I would have enough info to work things out. I appreciate the BUD pricing though.

Kevin

How exactly do you intend to do a LONE3 or DONE3 starting in South Africa?

Misnerfamily Jan 21, 2013 2:18 pm

Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin



Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 20094762)
How exactly do you intend to do a LONE3 or DONE3 starting in South Africa?


KVS Jan 21, 2013 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20093460)
Could someone post the same chart for JNB??

There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.3/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

JNB  Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
RTW  01 Apr 2013 | 15 Apr 2013 | All

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        JNB    JNB      2254  USD                      LONEWC3
BA        JNB    JNB      2507  USD                      LONEWC4
BA        JNB    JNB      2507  USD                      LONE4
BA        JNB    JNB      2507  USD                      LGLOB29
BA        JNB    JNB      2876  USD                      LONE5
BA        JNB    JNB      2876  USD                      LGLOB34
BA        JNB    JNB      3382  USD                      LONE6
BA        JNB    JNB      3382  USD                      LGLOB39
BA        JNB    JNB      5003  USD                      DONEWC3
BA        JNB    JNB      5521  USD                      DONEWC4
BA        JNB    JNB      5521  USD                      DONE4
BA        JNB    JNB      5521  USD                      DGLOB34
BA        JNB    JNB      6349  USD                      DONE5
BA        JNB    JNB      7465  USD                      DONE6
BA        JNB    JNB      7591  USD                      AONEWC3
BA        JNB    JNB      8385  USD                      AONEWC4
BA        JNB    JNB      8385  USD                      AONE4
BA        JNB    JNB      8385  USD                      AGLOB34
BA        JNB    JNB      9639  USD                      AONE5
BA        JNB    JNB    11307  USD                      AONE6


jerry a. laska Jan 21, 2013 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20095237)
Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin

Nothing sarcastic about it. I was wondering how you were planning an LONE3 or DONE3 ex-JNB, as far as I know it isn't possible from South Africa. An XONE3 from BUD (or other EUR start), Asia, or NA is possible.

Himeno Jan 21, 2013 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by Misnerfamily (Post 20095237)
Hi Jerry,

It has been a long day looking at various RTW itin's we might consider. What I do know is the following:

1) We intend to start a RTW from JNB;
2) Or we will start from BUD;
3) We will be returning to YYZ several times throughout the year;
4) We have specific places we MUST be at specific times.

The Fare Information Search you provided for BUD was GREAT (thank you again). I know a xONEx has to be at least 4 continents. The other options (*A, Circle fares would be helpful).

I need to take a break at this moment - I'm tired. If you do not want to provide the same info for JNB - that's not a problem. I prefer you ignore my posts for assistance rather than offer a sarcastic response.

Cheers - Kevin

Until such time as there is a oneworld flight crossing the South Atlantic, it is not possible to do an 3 continent RTW out of the southern hemisphere.

pandaperth Jan 21, 2013 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20096432)
Until such time as there is a oneworld flight crossing the South Atlantic, it is not possible to do an 3 continent RTW out of the southern hemisphere.

Or until non-stop flights SWP-Middle East are reconised in the ticket rules as not being via Asia
(QF's soon to start MEL/SYD-DXB (and on to LHR) and when QR joins its PER/MEL-DOH flights;)

Dr. HFH Jan 21, 2013 5:59 pm

But you can do an xONE3 originating at BUD (or anywhere in Europe).

pandaperth Jan 21, 2013 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 20096497)
But you can do an xONE3 originating at BUD (or anywhere in Europe).

Yes, you are correct
Northern hemisphere xONE3s have always been possible
But it is not currently possible to have an xONE3 that includes any of the Southern hemisphere continents, no matter where it originates

Himeno Jan 21, 2013 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 20096479)
Or until non-stop flights SWP-Middle East are reconised in the ticket rules as not being via Asia
(QF's soon to start MEL/SYD-DXB (and on to LHR) and when QR joins its PER/MEL-DOH flights;)

Which would still prevent xONE3s using Africa.

Provided the reroute of QF1/2/9/10 gets recognised as SWP-EU, you could do SWP-EU-NA/SA-SWP as a xONE3, but any use of Africa would result in an xONE4. Also couldn't use Asia on an xONE3 with SWP (unless AA restarts India flights and said flights are labeled as transatlantic)

pandaperth Jan 21, 2013 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20097067)
Which would still prevent xONE3s using Africa.

Yes, you are correct
If Africa is in the itinerary, then Europe has to be as well (because there are no flights from Africa to either Nth or Sth America). That means both continents in TC2 are in, then you have to add in at least one from each of TC1 and TC3 - makes a total of at least 4 continents required.
Now if MH had not dropped its JNB-EZE flight....


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