As per AA links above. All fare class do not earn 100%. Depends on the airline. Your status bonus is additional to the % in the table. With AA ff miles based on revenue is hard to determine. More a question for the AA forum to be sure. Will be a wiki thread on this topic (but can be hard to find on the AA forum).

Qatar and BA have the best route network for MiddleEast/Africa destinations from London, so you'll end up mostly on their planes when flying oneworld and their FFPs would be logical options to switch to.
Full-fare Y travel earns well in all programs. However, there's nuances, and AA is stingier there than both BAEC and QRPC.
BAEC treats Y, B and H fares as full fare on Qatar and itself for points earning purposes. AAdvantage only awards 100% miles for the most expensive Y fare bucket on Qatar, and Y/B on BA. Earning on both drops pretipiously beyond that. So sticking with AA is not the best choice unless you really buy full-fare Y tickets.
QRPC also classifies Y/B/H fares as full fare, and they let K/L/M/V fares ('economy value', the next tier down) earn at much higher rates than you'd get with AAdvantage or BAEC.
Qatar usually offers lower pricing than BA, and chances for op-ups into business class are best with (high) QRPC status. If you (have to) fly QR mostly and buy less-than fully-flexible Y, switch to QRPC to maximize earning and upgrade opportunities, with BAEC a consideration only if you typically fly them on Y/B/H fares.
Qatar does not offer premium economy, and they reserve their own (very nice) lounges in DOH and LHR for premium cabin passengers only. Status passengers in Y are relegated to rather subpar lounges at those two airports. Especially at their hub in DOH, that is really annoying.

BA has premium economy, which earns disproportionately well in AAdvantage. If by "Y+" you mean you can buy into that cabin, fly on BA and stick with AAdvantage (or move to BAEC for taking advantage of POUG/AUP upgrade options).

How close are you to lifetime status on AA? Three years of EXP with 300k+ miles towards milion miler status (if you stick with AAdvantage and fly on high-earning fares) is worth considering, especially if you'd be able to use those SWUs for (personal) trips back to the US.


While Etihad is indeed an AA partner, the FF partnership is limited to only earning redeemable miles (no EQM) on EY flights, and they do not recognize AA status for priority services in the air and on the ground - no lounge access - at all.

BA has various upgrade avenues, which do require FF instruments (avios) or (attractively priced) cash payments. Check the 'AUP' and POUG threads on the BAEC forum. These are especially attractive for upgrades from Premium Economy into business class. From economy, these will only get you into Premium economy, though.

Also note that is possible to upgrade full-fare BA tickets with AA miles. See details here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...r-airlines.jsp

Qatar is known for operational upgrades. Chances are fairly high of op-ups into business class happening for high-status QRPC members.
Also, QR offers discounted online upgrades as well. See here for examples ex LHR.

AA, unlike its two large US counterparts, currently does not waive the spend requirements for members based outside the USA. But that should not be a concern when buying <100k of (expensive) full-fare Y fares on partners annually.

Which Oneworld carrier to join?
 

Background: My s.o. is with AA so sometimes I concede to fly AA (or other Oneworld partners like BA, JL) if the price is right. I am currently UA's Premier Platinum and want to keep at least Premier Gold (50k-level) with UA. The purpose of joining Oneworld FFP is to credit the Oneworld miles to it and, if possible, obtain mid-level 50k status for complimentary selection of "more space" economy seats. Below are the responses to the questions. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! :cool:

Questions
For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Extra baggage allowance, free lounge access, free "more-space" economy seats selection.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply: >50k miles per year, a little over 100k. 25-50 flights.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply:Economy cheapest - 60%, Premium economy - 40%.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes. 99.99% travel for pleasure.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Reply: Trans-Pacific to Asia (TPE), 3 roundtrips a year at least. Various US domestic flights to ski resorts and/or HNL/OGG, CHI, IAD/BWI. Twice a year to Europe (mainly UK, Ireland, Netherlands, Alps for skiing - mostly Switzerland and Austria.)
(6) What is your home airport?
Reply: LAX, ONT, TPE, TSA
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Reply:United MileagePlus Premier Platinum. Not a lot left on UA.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: United Airlines, American Airlines, British Airways

Flying on Tuesday, where to post?
 

Hi all,

I have recently taken up a new role which will involve lots of long haul business travel between New Zealand and Australia and between NZ/Australia and Asia (mostly China and Hong Kong)

I am flying on Tuesday to Hong Kong and China on CX business

I am currently gold on Qantas but their silly annualised rather than 12 month rolling qualification means I wont requalify this year. I am happy to consider posting these next flights to another carrier. I have jsut applied for the Topbonus status match too (I am Gold Elite on Air New Zealand)

1 - what is your definition of best?
I would like a programme that offers a fast path to platinum (emerald) on Oneworld, and cheap mileage redemption in business class on oneworld
2 do you value miles/points (or equivalent) for redemption over gaining status?
Both
3 do you fly enough to gain any meaningful status?
Yes, am Gold elite on Air NZ
4 what do you want to use the miles/points for (award, upgrade, hotels, what ever)?
business awards and upgrades only
5 what sort of flight award is of interest (destination, class of travel)?
class of travel
6 are you interested in topping up by paying cash for miles?
sure
7 which airline and where do you normally fly?
Qantas and Cathay Pacific within Asia/NZ and to Asia
8 are you primarily a leisure or business traveller?
both
9 where do you live?
New Zealand and Australia
10 do you have other ways of earning points in the various programs, e.g. credit cards, shopping, etc,?
Possibly a credit card in Australia

AA vs QR?!
 

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Lounge access, priority security/check-in/boarding, complimentary/discounted or status upgrades, FFM accrual

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Usually 3 flights between the USA and Asia, and several flights within Asia (cannot always get alliance airlines on these, but I try) -- typically economy

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Typically discounted economy, or saver economy awards -- will begin booking selectively on business/first class with points and $ as I get more savvy

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I can choose 100%, I travel for pleasure

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Delta ATL--> SIN

(6) What is your home airport?
ATL, SIN, SFO

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Delta Gold Medallion (115K miles), United Gold (10K miles), plus around 170K Chase Ultimate Rewards points

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Delta

More details... :)

I have never flown oneworld carriers and have no oneworld frequent flyer accounts setup YET. I snagged one of the Qatar deals from BKK to LAX on Business for $1,500~ RT so I have a large earning opportunity coming in March 2017.

Have a dilemma and would love an opinion:

A) Should I credit this long flight/miles to Qatar and status match to Qatar Silver/oneworld Ruby - no lounge access on any economy seats I book with just Ruby At least I can start earning nice miles in a QR bank as I will likely use them in the future since they fly into my home base, ATL.

OR

B) Should I credit to American. Only reason I may do this is because I may do a few credit card sign-on bonuses later in 2017 worth 50-90K AA miles. I have no desire to use AA outside of this in the future, but the bonuses seem nice.

Status matching to AA Gold or Plat after setting up a bank with them seems useless because 1) my Qatar flight wouldn't earn miles for the status challenge (they don't count Qatar EQM's for the 90 day challenge) 2) if I ever fly on American in the future (not my ideal), it would be from award flights, if ever, so it's not like I'll earn EQM's on award flights either.

I have some future flights on oneworld carriers potentially coming as well (Sri Lankan and/or Malaysian), so this is another reason I need a oneworld bank.

Any thoughts? I hope this was fully coherent. I'm leaning towards Qatar.

Hi Everyone! I'm moving to Cairo this February for work and am not sure if I should credit
everything to AA, who I've been quite loyal to, or to make a new Qatar Privilege account as
that will be my go-to carrier. I'm in Cairo til the end of year, so nothing long term.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Tailored service and award miles.

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
300K, split down the middle between AA and UA. Long hauls with UA (SFO based for now) and
AA for everything domestic.

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy domestic (thank god for complimentary upgrades!) and business intl.

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Yes, and 90% of travel is for business.

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
I fly US-Asia and Europe, along with domestic. Loyal to UA for intl. and AA for domestic.

(6) What is your home airport?
Currently SFO and SJC, but will move to CAI this February.

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
I have AA EXP and UA 1K. Most of my miles are banked with United, but am starting to grow AA.

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I will be flying a lot with Qatar until I move back stateside. Prefer this over BA and Royal Jordaian.

I would probably stick with AA since AA's elite qualification metrics are fairly decent when flying business class on partners like QR. You don't say how much of your travel might be on ME - North America routes while you're based in Cairo, but you might want to spend a few minutes (have some aspirin set aside) to figure out how many AA elite qualifying miles and EQ dollars you'd earn on a typical itinerary, including some mixed QR/AA itineraries that include domestic segments on AA metal. My hunch is that you'd end up better off building your mileage base with AA rather than starting a new one with QR, but it's not challenging math.

Thank you! I ended up plugging in the numbers and it's actually quite amazing!

I would earn roughly double the miles with AA than I would with Qatar (until I hit plat) and
from what I have read, mileage redemption is much better on AA.

Looking to maximize a nice business class deal I got on QR for OW status. I am located in NYC.

Flying AMS-DOH-HND round trip in R class (business) on QR. Using the BA Tier Point calculator, it looks like I would earn 560 tier points from this itinerary (140 TP per leg). BA Silver (OW Sapphire) is 600 TP, leaving me 40 TP and 4 BA segments short. Looks like JFK-LHR-AMS cash fare (RT) will net me 50 TP in O class and cover the 4 segment requirement for BA Silver.

Is there any other program that would get me OW Sapphire status like this?

From your profile "Programs: AA/JL, KE, NH"
Why would you want to join a 3rd oneworld ffp? :confused:
Why not put to AA?
Getting OW Sapphire status from 1 trip is unrealistic.
www.wheretocredit.com/qr for redeemable ff miles. Determining status earning is much more difficult, especially with revenue based ffp's

I only have an AAdvantage account. I mostly use my AA miles for JL redemptions, which is why I put that there. Given AA's new revenue requirements, I can no longer even hit AAdvantage Gold status with them, so I am looking for other FFP's with no revenue requirement.

I don't care about redeemable miles, only obtaining status. I mostly want it for the lounge access and being able to pick MCE seats for free on domestic AA flights.

The grass in not always greener on the other side

Toronto Base - Which OneWorld Recommended?
 

Hi there, currently I am a CX Silver, almost qualified for Gold. However, I am wondering if CX is the best program for me to bank all my miles. I'm not liking the fact that the miles expire after 3 years. Perhaps AA or BAEC might be something to explore as it sounds like they don't expire? I mainly like being able to store my miles for upgrades.

Things I value: Priority Check In/Boarding, Lounge Access and using points to upgrade premium economy flights to J rather than an outright redemption of miles for a J flight.

Questions
For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP? - upgrade travel from prem econ to biz, lounge access, priority check in and boarding
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
30K - 40K miles a year, fly from Toronto to Europe or Asia about 2-3 times a year, with 2-3 short trips to USA

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Premium Economy on Cathay or Business Class on AA to fly to Asia

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Yes, can choose airline, fly for leisure

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Canada to Europe and Asia, at least 2-3 times a year

(6) What is your home airport?
YYZ

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
CX Silver. Yes, miles banked.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
CX, BA, AA, Finnair, Japan, Malaysia; I really like CX J the best, so that's why I bank my miles there because of the product.

AAdvantage or Marco Polo?
 

Hi all - new here and have tried to study the various FFPs, however I would really appreciate your input as they are quite confusing! I will be travelling more going forward and am debating which FFP to pledge my loyalty to: AAdvantage or Marco Polo / Asia Miles. The below will be my anticipated travels for this year (may increase going forward):

Based in NYC (JFK/LGA):
- 1-2 business class trips to Asia (British Airways - usually with stops, so for example, I've calculated that if I bank one return NYC/India trip to Marco Polo, that alone would get me 290 club points which is almost enough for Marco Polo silver)
- 2 economy / premium economy class trips to Asia (Cathay)
- 10-12 economy class domestic trips of various lengths (American)

Additionally, I usually travel around Asia quite a bit (on Cathay) every time I visit - so there are a few additional short-haul flights there in between Asian cities.

I think my answer would've been to commit to AAdvantage had the business trip(s) not provided the incentive of almost automatic silver status to Marco Polo. Prior to this year, I've only achieved status on United and never cared to think too much about my non-Star Alliance flights, so oneworld is completely foreign to me as to how things work. My initial thought is that it seems easier to accrue points on Asia Miles (for flight redemptions) since it's distance-based, whereas AAdvantage is fare-based. Lounge access is nice (especially CX's The Pier in HKG - which is where I usually fly long-haul into/out of Asia), but not my priority as I have Priority Pass Select membership via Chase Sapphire Reserve. Main priorities are ease of accumulating points/miles for free flights and chances for upgrades (which to be honest, aren't too easy nowadays).

What would you do:
- Credit the BA business flights to Marco Polo for the automatic Silver status and bank the rest of the flights to AAdvantage?
- Credit everything to Marco Polo / Asia Miles (should qualify for Gold then)?
- Credit everything to AAdvantage (not sure what that will get me)?
- Other ideas?

Thanks so much, and apologies in advance if this has been discussed before! I've asked friends who travel frequently for business and received various opinions, so thought I'm better off reaching out to the pros!

The big question of AA vs other Oneworld is whether you value upgrades (AA) or lounge access (non-AA) as your status perk

BA Executive Club may work better than Marco Polo if you go non-AA

You'd still nearly get Sapphire status from your Asia trip, plus you get extra miles when flying BA, but also IB and AA as well

BA's domestic US redemption rates for non-stops are reasonably good, although transatlantic are not with fuel surcharges