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KipKe Sep 26, 2016 4:29 am

Thanks for your answer.

All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight.

Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class?

cfr... the AA website says this:


Details for earning miles
For travel August 1 – December 31, 2016

Cabin Purchased fares booked in** EQMs per mile flown***
Full Fare First/Business F, J 3.00
Discount First/Business A, P, D, I, R 2.00
Economy Y, B, W* 1.50
Economy H, K, M, L, W, V, G, Q, N, O, S 1.00

Mwenenzi Sep 26, 2016 4:06 pm

This thread is about Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program?
As your questions are about the AA ffp and the recent changes, questions are better asked on the AA forum, as you have been advised. Some very knowledgeable people on this topic in the AA forum


Originally Posted by KipKe (Post 27264128)
All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight.

Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class?

Very unlikely you purchased a full Y fare booking class, Y fare booking class is often very expensive. Can be more than discount business, such as I
www.wheretocredit.com/aa

Set Sep 26, 2016 8:52 pm

I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused :)

Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.

Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?

Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:

-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade

Thanks.

Mwenenzi Sep 26, 2016 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Set (Post 27268191)
I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused :)

Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.
Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?

Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:
-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade

Read post 1, copy and answer the questions

Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp

Set Sep 26, 2016 9:06 pm

Right, so is there one airline to choose over another to get to status quicker?

Mwenenzi Sep 26, 2016 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by Set (Post 27268256)
Right, so is there one airline to choose over another to get to status quicker?

Read post 1/wiki, post 2 and copy and answer the questions

Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp
Generally easier to get status on the airline you have freq flyer membership & fly most

Again (in case you missed)
Read post 1/wiki, post 2 and copy and answer the questions

Set Sep 26, 2016 9:33 pm

I did read, I gave the answers in very short here. I will check again.

I also have a different question, I'm trying to sign up with Cathay Marco Polo, and they want $100 USD for signing up. Does that make sense to anyone?

Mwenenzi Sep 27, 2016 2:14 am


Originally Posted by Set (Post 27268362)
I also have a different question, I'm trying to sign up with Cathay Marco Polo, and they want $100 USD for signing up. Does that make sense to anyone?

Yes. There is a (hefty) fee for joining Marco Polo.
Asia Miles & Marco Polo are different but associated. If you sign up for MP you become a Asia Miles member.
Look on the Cathay forum stickys for more information. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...polo-club-487/

And http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...hoose-why.html

zdeneksme Sep 29, 2016 2:39 pm

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ckk Sep 29, 2016 3:09 pm

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K, about 30 segments.

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure.

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
VIE-LHR and VIE-MXP. VIE-MIA or similar twice per year. Operators are usually OS, BA, AB.

(6) What is your home airport?
VIE

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd focus on a
single program now.

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
No preference yet. Most common: OS, BA, AB.

I think I could cover basically all of my travel with BA and AB, so I would be looking into a program that would help me achieve the goals of (1) as soon as possible.

Thanks in advance for any advice!


(Full disclosure: I placed a similar question in the *A forum because I my guess is that *A would fit me more, but obviously I could be wrong).

ckk Sep 30, 2016 4:45 am

(Disclaimer: I posted a similar message in the *A forum because my initial impression is that *A would suit me better. However, I could be wrong, so I hope it's OK if I ask here as well).

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?

Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K over 30-ish segments

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mostly within Europe, with one or two intercontinental roundtrips each year

(6) What is your home airport?
VIE

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd like to focus on a single program now.

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I honestly don't have much preference beyond avoiding low-cost carriers. I currently fly mostly OS and AB because they fly me non-stop to most European destinations. BA would be in third place.

Simply put, I don't care too much about award miles (they are a nice plus), I'd rather prefer to achieve a certain status quickly such that it makes my travels more convenient.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

NetJets Germany Sep 30, 2016 6:49 pm

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Redeem award flights in business or first class, extra checked baggage allowance.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
50-75k, 25% business (Long-haul), 75% economy (Short-haul)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Discount biz, Y+ when premium over Y 10-20%, otherwise Y in 50-100% mileage earning fare buckets
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Can choose, travel for both, am self-employed.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Short-haul:
- SIN-HKG, currently on UA
- SIN-PEK/PVG, on SQ
Long-haul:
- SIN-US (Both coasts), mainly on SQ
- SIN-EUR, mainly on SQ
Please note that I will usually look for discount biz fares to cheapest arrival airport in Europe/USA and/or cheapest departure airport around SIN (KUL, CGK, SGN, BKK, HKG, etc) for the long-haul flights, before I take a quick short-haul hop to my final destination. So cost of ticket is far more important than minimising stops or travel time, and for that reason QR fares look very attractive for Asia-Europe (And v.v.) travel.
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
SIN
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No status, no significant miles hoarded anywhere. Have Gold status on SQ, but not PPS.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Most flown on: SQ
Other preferred airlines: CX, BR, KE, NH, QR, LX

zdeneksme Oct 1, 2016 7:27 am

Hi everyone,

I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.

At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?

No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.

I will appreciate any help and suggestions.

Gardyloo Oct 1, 2016 9:11 am


Originally Posted by zdeneksme (Post 27287989)
Hi everyone,

I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.

At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?

No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.

I will appreciate any help and suggestions.

I like option "B" a lot, especially given AS' pending merger with VX.

Greg0rE Oct 1, 2016 10:33 am

Hi folks,
I am currently considering to switch to Oneworld as most members from my research group are with Oneworld. I am however undecided which airline to go with.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Upgrades, priority service and lounge access

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
(<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: 25k-50k this year, last year was 75k

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply: Economy

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Free choice of carrier (although expected to go One World from next year), predominantly for work

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: UK -> Germany and other EU countries, Tanzania, Washington/New York, Hong Kong

6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: EMA (pointless), so BHX, MAN (and sometimes LHR, LCY if need be)

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: UA Gold

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: United, SAS, LH, Brussels at the moment


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