Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program? Help is here.
#241
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 38
Considering other OneWorld Mileage program?
hi all,
I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.
I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?
Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.
Thanks
I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.
I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?
Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.
Thanks
#242
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Analyze the earn/burn rates for the routes/classes you fly to earn and what you want to redeem. Cost and availabiility are dramatically different between FF programs and the latter might be the most important consideration. Diamond used to be worth its weight in gold
with many informal benefits not stated in the plan. Has this stopped being the case? When I checked years ago the BA/QF/LA/AA equiv. status was significantly less valuable than Diamond because of this, but of course only applies on CX. AA has seductive earn/burn rate, but you have to wonder about the future of AA, with "merger" with USAir quite likely which could severely devalue Aadvantage.
with many informal benefits not stated in the plan. Has this stopped being the case? When I checked years ago the BA/QF/LA/AA equiv. status was significantly less valuable than Diamond because of this, but of course only applies on CX. AA has seductive earn/burn rate, but you have to wonder about the future of AA, with "merger" with USAir quite likely which could severely devalue Aadvantage.
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#245
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hi all,
I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.
I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?
Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.
Thanks
I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.
I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?
Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.
Thanks
However, if your travel is mainly in Business or First Class on various airlines, then I'd recommend you join AA.
One of the main disadvantages of the MPC programme is the lack of bonus miles for elite members. AAdvantage Elite members earn 25% , & 100% bonus as Gold (OWRuby), Platinum & Exec Platinum (OW Sapphire & Emerald) on most qualifying Oneworld partner flights.
AAdvantage also has lower award requirements. A round trip F between Asia and North America is just 135K and around $50 tax with no fuel surcharge. But having said that, no wait listing or upgrading on CX flights using miles is possible. AAdvantage miles also do not expire as long as you have activity very 18 months.
You do need however 4 flights on AA per year to retain status. Further information can be had over at the AA forum.
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#247



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While it is in the AAdvantage program rules, I believe this requirement is not enforced
And I hope that is the case, because I have an upcoming RTW trip which will reap me enough points to re-qualify for Platinum, but there are no AA flights on the itinerary
And I hope that is the case, because I have an upcoming RTW trip which will reap me enough points to re-qualify for Platinum, but there are no AA flights on the itinerary
#248
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC, BER
Posts: 91
Hi everyone love this thread as i was just about to decide which program to take:
Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: TXL, SXF, BER (at some point hopefully). BOS when im in the US
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: only when neccessary, so I always fly cheapest
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: transatlantic, some US domestic, German
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: No
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: free benefits
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: AA, BA
Im currently on BA's EC because I heard good things about Avios
Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: TXL, SXF, BER (at some point hopefully). BOS when im in the US
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: only when neccessary, so I always fly cheapest
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: transatlantic, some US domestic, German
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: No
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: free benefits
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: AA, BA
Im currently on BA's EC because I heard good things about Avios
#249
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SYD, SIN, HKG
Posts: 57
Hi,
Currently i'm based in Sydney. However my home is Singapore which i travel back every now and then.
I fly about 25k-50k a year and usually on Economy.
I'm usually on Singapore Airlines for comfort and better timing, and even using them so i can transit back home before traveling outbound to other destinations for work and pleasure. (Achieved *G)
As I'm based in Sydney, i will be doing some domestic travels for work and leisure but I've no status here and its annoying to get stucked in the same route trying to attain status again.
I'm a TK Gold and A3 Gold now.
It is important to me is Lounge and extra baggages. Redemption is difficult at times thus usually i buy a flex fare tix to match my travel pattern.
I would prefer Qantas as they have wider selection of flights from Sydney.
Kindly please advise what should i do?
Currently i'm based in Sydney. However my home is Singapore which i travel back every now and then.
I fly about 25k-50k a year and usually on Economy.
I'm usually on Singapore Airlines for comfort and better timing, and even using them so i can transit back home before traveling outbound to other destinations for work and pleasure. (Achieved *G)
As I'm based in Sydney, i will be doing some domestic travels for work and leisure but I've no status here and its annoying to get stucked in the same route trying to attain status again.
I'm a TK Gold and A3 Gold now.
It is important to me is Lounge and extra baggages. Redemption is difficult at times thus usually i buy a flex fare tix to match my travel pattern.
I would prefer Qantas as they have wider selection of flights from Sydney.
Kindly please advise what should i do?
#250
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I would say your options are between Qantas and AA, with Qantas being good in that you will get 100% miles and guaranteed 1000 points per flight, even on the cheapest economy ticket.
#251




Join Date: May 2012
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FFP recommendation
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None
#252
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(1)(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
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(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
Reply: <25K Economy
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(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
Expiring miles used to happen at 3 years in many FFP, buy many now have an 18 month no activity rule.
These may not be up to date (look at Validity of Points)
http://www.hotels-and-travel.de/ffp/...ld/ow_ruby.htm
http://www.hotels-and-travel.de/ffp/...w_sapphire.htm
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Jan 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm
#253
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SYD, SIN, HKG
Posts: 57
hey nux,
not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!
However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.
not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!
However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.
#254
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SYD, SIN, HKG
Posts: 57
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None
Hey, it depends on which carrier you'll used often and do you always buy discount tickets.
I'm shuttling to and fro from Sydney to Singapore and I'll fly Singapore airlines and clock Aegean Mileage to get *G faster!
So it depends on which airlines u take often and do u buy full fare.
#255
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hey nux,
not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!
However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.
not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!
However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.
Your choices for Australian Domestic are Qantas and Virgin, neither of which are Star Alliance.
If you are going to be flying Emirates long haul, then Qantas is the obvious choice of program for any OW travel because of the tie up with Emirates. Although full details haven't been announced, you should be able to get FF points credited to Qantas when flying Emirates.

